Alder lake better than zen4!

By: Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org), May 26, 2022 5:40 am
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Kara (karaardalan.delete@this.gmail.com) on May 26, 2022 4:24 am wrote:
> Intel i9 1200ks scores ~1900 Geekbench ST.
> M1 ~1800
> R9 5950x ~1600
>
> Intel alder lake is already ahead in single threaded performance!
>
> How the **** news outlets are saying stuff like "AMD jsut obliterated intel!", Seriously is amd paying them?
>


The 1600 GB5 score for 5950X is just garbage that must be ignored, from some misconfigured Windows machine.

The correct score for Ryzen 9 5950X is around 1850, and it is higher than any score of a M1. Apple M1 has an IPC better than Zen 3 by about 50%, but 5950X has a clock frequency higher by more than 50%, hence the difference in favor of 5950X.

The new Rembrandt Zen 3 (Ryzen 6000) have slightly higher clock frequencies than 5950X, so they should be a little better than 5950X.

There are applications where an Apple M1 cannot attain its typical higher IPC, either because of data dependencies or because of not enough functional units in the core, for example the computations with large integers.

For such computations, Apple M1 is much weaker than indicated by the GB5 score, because the higher clock frequency becomes more important, and even a Zen 2, like Ryzen 7 3700X, can beat it.

So, in ST, Alder Lake leads with a comfortable difference, followed by several other CPUs with small differences between them, 2nd is Rocket Lake, then Ryzen Zen 3, then Apple M1, then Tiger Lake.

Rocket Lake is 2nd due to its higher clock frequency, even if it has a lower IPC than Apple M1 or Zen 3.

Tiger Lake has about the same IPC as Rocket Lake, but lower clock frequencies, hence the 5th position.

Except for Alder Lake, which is noticeably faster, the other 4 differ only by a few percent, so the difference between them is normally negligible.

There is more difference between the most expensive SKUs, with high frequency, and the cheaper SKUs, with low frequency, except for Apple M1, which is not sold with different clock frequencies.

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Zen 4 is really badKara2022/05/26 01:52 AM
  Zen 4 is really bad-.-2022/05/26 02:13 AM
    who is the champ right now?Michael S2022/05/26 03:36 AM
      who is the champ right now?Kara2022/05/26 04:16 AM
        Alder lake better than zen4!Kara2022/05/26 04:24 AM
          Alder lake better than zen4!Adrian2022/05/26 05:40 AM
            Alder lake better than zen4!anon22022/05/26 06:14 PM
              Alder lake better than zen4!Adrian2022/05/27 04:18 AM
                Alder lake better than zen4!Matt Hughes2022/05/28 11:15 PM
      who is the champ right now?-.-2022/05/26 05:23 AM
        who is the champ right now?Adrian2022/05/26 06:09 AM
          who is the champ right now?Andrei F2022/05/26 06:16 AM
            who is the champ right now?Adrian2022/05/26 07:10 AM
              who is the champ right now?Andrei F2022/05/26 07:37 AM
                who is the champ right now?Andrei F2022/05/26 07:59 AM
              who is the champ right now?Eric Fink2022/05/27 12:17 AM
                who is the champ right now?Adrian2022/05/27 05:41 AM
            Optimally?Anon2022/05/26 09:43 AM
              Optimally?Andrei F2022/05/26 12:10 PM
          who is the champ right now?-.-2022/05/26 06:43 PM
            who is the champ right now?Adrian2022/05/27 05:24 AM
          Nothing wrong with anads spec2006 results - see the breakdownHeikki Kultala2022/05/27 03:23 PM
            Nothing wrong with anads spec2006 results - see the breakdownDoug S2022/05/27 09:59 PM
              Nothing wrong with anads spec2006 results - see the breakdownMatt Hughes2022/05/28 06:32 PM
                Nothing wrong with anads spec2006 results - see the breakdownMichael S2022/05/29 01:44 AM
                  Nothing wrong with anads spec2006 results - see the breakdownAdrian2022/05/29 03:53 AM
    Zen 4 is really badAdrian2022/05/26 05:16 AM
      Zen 4 is really bad-.-2022/05/26 05:58 AM
        Zen 4 test conditionsAdrian2022/05/26 06:14 AM
          Zen 4 test conditionsGroo2022/05/26 06:01 PM
        Zen 4 ECCAdrian2022/05/26 06:33 AM
          Zen 4 ECC-.-2022/05/26 06:38 PM
            Zen 4 ECCAdrian2022/05/27 05:11 AM
              Zen 4 ECC-.-2022/05/27 08:30 PM
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          Zen 4 ECCdrAgonear2022/05/26 11:58 PM
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      Zen 4 is really badgoose2022/05/26 08:14 PM
        Zen 4 is really badAdrian2022/05/27 04:44 AM
          Zen 4 is really badJames2022/05/27 06:13 AM
  Zen 4 is really badJohn H2022/05/26 05:45 AM
  Zen 4 is really badDoug S2022/05/26 10:50 AM
    Zen 4 is really badDummond D. Slow2022/05/28 09:14 PM
      Zen 4 is really badDoug S2022/05/29 09:49 AM
  Please check the faxts instead of posting crap like thisHeikki Kultala2022/05/26 11:05 AM
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      Zen 4 IPC and AVX-512Per Hesselgren2022/05/27 01:07 AM
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        Zen 4 IPC and AVX-512Adrian2022/05/27 04:57 AM
          Zen 4 IPC and AVX-512anon2022/05/27 08:22 AM
  Zen 4 is really badParsnip2022/05/29 04:20 AM
    What do you mean by 3-wide desing?Heikki Kultala2022/05/29 01:05 PM
      What do you mean by 3-wide desing?Doug S2022/05/29 02:32 PM
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