Alder lake better than zen4!

By: anon2 (anon.delete@this.anon.com), May 26, 2022 6:14 pm
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Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on May 26, 2022 5:40 am wrote:
> Kara (karaardalan.delete@this.gmail.com) on May 26, 2022 4:24 am wrote:
> > Intel i9 1200ks scores ~1900 Geekbench ST.
> > M1 ~1800
> > R9 5950x ~1600
> >
> > Intel alder lake is already ahead in single threaded performance!
> >
> > How the **** news outlets are saying stuff like "AMD jsut obliterated intel!", Seriously is amd paying them?
> >
>
>
> The 1600 GB5 score for 5950X is just garbage that must be ignored, from some misconfigured Windows machine.
>
> The correct score for Ryzen 9 5950X is around 1850, and it is higher than any score
> of a M1.

Do you have any references to this? I have no idea how to work out "correct" GB5 scores and "news" sites seem to have wildly varying numbers that don't seem to make sense.


> Apple M1 has an IPC better than Zen 3 by about 50%, but 5950X has a clock
> frequency higher by more than 50%, hence the difference in favor of 5950X.
>
> The new Rembrandt Zen 3 (Ryzen 6000) have slightly higher clock frequencies
> than 5950X, so they should be a little better than 5950X.
>
> There are applications where an Apple M1 cannot attain its typical higher
> IPC, either because of data dependencies or because of not enough functional
> units in the core, for example the computations with large integers.
>
> For such computations, Apple M1 is much weaker than indicated by the GB5 score, because the higher
> clock frequency becomes more important, and even a Zen 2, like Ryzen 7 3700X, can beat it.

Which applications or benchmarks are these?

>
> So, in ST, Alder Lake leads with a comfortable difference, followed by several other CPUs with small
> differences between them, 2nd is Rocket Lake, then Ryzen Zen 3, then Apple M1, then Tiger Lake.
>
> Rocket Lake is 2nd due to its higher clock frequency, even if it has a lower IPC than Apple M1 or Zen 3.
>
> Tiger Lake has about the same IPC as Rocket Lake, but lower clock frequencies, hence the 5th position.
>
> Except for Alder Lake, which is noticeably faster, the other 4 differ only
> by a few percent, so the difference between them is normally negligible.
>
> There is more difference between the most expensive SKUs, with high frequency, and the cheaper SKUs,
> with low frequency, except for Apple M1, which is not sold with different clock frequencies.
>
>

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  Zen 4 is really bad-.-2022/05/26 02:13 AM
    who is the champ right now?Michael S2022/05/26 03:36 AM
      who is the champ right now?Kara2022/05/26 04:16 AM
        Alder lake better than zen4!Kara2022/05/26 04:24 AM
          Alder lake better than zen4!Adrian2022/05/26 05:40 AM
            Alder lake better than zen4!anon22022/05/26 06:14 PM
              Alder lake better than zen4!Adrian2022/05/27 04:18 AM
                Alder lake better than zen4!Matt Hughes2022/05/28 11:15 PM
      who is the champ right now?-.-2022/05/26 05:23 AM
        who is the champ right now?Adrian2022/05/26 06:09 AM
          who is the champ right now?Andrei F2022/05/26 06:16 AM
            who is the champ right now?Adrian2022/05/26 07:10 AM
              who is the champ right now?Andrei F2022/05/26 07:37 AM
                who is the champ right now?Andrei F2022/05/26 07:59 AM
              who is the champ right now?Eric Fink2022/05/27 12:17 AM
                who is the champ right now?Adrian2022/05/27 05:41 AM
            Optimally?Anon2022/05/26 09:43 AM
              Optimally?Andrei F2022/05/26 12:10 PM
          who is the champ right now?-.-2022/05/26 06:43 PM
            who is the champ right now?Adrian2022/05/27 05:24 AM
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                  Nothing wrong with anads spec2006 results - see the breakdownAdrian2022/05/29 03:53 AM
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      Zen 4 is really bad-.-2022/05/26 05:58 AM
        Zen 4 test conditionsAdrian2022/05/26 06:14 AM
          Zen 4 test conditionsGroo2022/05/26 06:01 PM
        Zen 4 ECCAdrian2022/05/26 06:33 AM
          Zen 4 ECC-.-2022/05/26 06:38 PM
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              Zen 4 ECC-.-2022/05/27 08:30 PM
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        Zen 4 is really badAdrian2022/05/27 04:44 AM
          Zen 4 is really badJames2022/05/27 06:13 AM
  Zen 4 is really badJohn H2022/05/26 05:45 AM
  Zen 4 is really badDoug S2022/05/26 10:50 AM
    Zen 4 is really badDummond D. Slow2022/05/28 09:14 PM
      Zen 4 is really badDoug S2022/05/29 09:49 AM
  Please check the faxts instead of posting crap like thisHeikki Kultala2022/05/26 11:05 AM
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    What do you mean by 3-wide desing?Heikki Kultala2022/05/29 01:05 PM
      What do you mean by 3-wide desing?Doug S2022/05/29 02:32 PM
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