By: Brett (ggtgp.delete@this.yahoo.com), July 21, 2022 10:38 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
inthestratosphere (inthestratosphere.delete@this.somewhere.com) on July 21, 2022 2:46 pm wrote:
> Brett (ggtgp.delete@this.yahoo.com) on July 21, 2022 1:18 pm wrote:
> > Hilarious.
> >
> > With minimal cooling needed you could stack a pair of 12 socket M2 PRO motherboards
> > in a 1U server case. How’s that for compute density and power use/cooling cost.
>
> It's hilarious that you seem to be an expert in how public clouds
> work, and what workloads look like that run on them.
A CPU is a CPU is a CPU.
And Apple has the best CPU on the market.
With the highest ram bandwidth.
> I suspect this works for a laptop, because most folks don't push a laptop to any meaningful
> sustained CPU utilization, and/or its fine to have thermal throttling if you do.
>
> Nothing stops anyone posting anything here, but suggest if you are going to do so, at least make
> it plausible. I don't think dense+fanless is feasible like you describe, and its likely more cost
> effective to have a fan (vs. exotic heatsink), but what you describe is not the first, second
> or third highest priority things that would need to be solved, for this to be a 'thing'.
Of course a server M2 PRO would have higher clocks with modest heat sinks and case fans, I am talking 24 sockets after all.
It’s the level of powning that is hilarious, assuming Apple ever publicly sold such servers to third parties. Do the cost basis for Apple CPU’s verses 24 Intel/AMD CPU’s, and what sort of comparison and margins this would produce. I can’t stop laughing. ;)
> Brett (ggtgp.delete@this.yahoo.com) on July 21, 2022 1:18 pm wrote:
> > Hilarious.
> >
> > With minimal cooling needed you could stack a pair of 12 socket M2 PRO motherboards
> > in a 1U server case. How’s that for compute density and power use/cooling cost.
>
> It's hilarious that you seem to be an expert in how public clouds
> work, and what workloads look like that run on them.
A CPU is a CPU is a CPU.
And Apple has the best CPU on the market.
With the highest ram bandwidth.
> I suspect this works for a laptop, because most folks don't push a laptop to any meaningful
> sustained CPU utilization, and/or its fine to have thermal throttling if you do.
>
> Nothing stops anyone posting anything here, but suggest if you are going to do so, at least make
> it plausible. I don't think dense+fanless is feasible like you describe, and its likely more cost
> effective to have a fan (vs. exotic heatsink), but what you describe is not the first, second
> or third highest priority things that would need to be solved, for this to be a 'thing'.
Of course a server M2 PRO would have higher clocks with modest heat sinks and case fans, I am talking 24 sockets after all.
It’s the level of powning that is hilarious, assuming Apple ever publicly sold such servers to third parties. Do the cost basis for Apple CPU’s verses 24 Intel/AMD CPU’s, and what sort of comparison and margins this would produce. I can’t stop laughing. ;)
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