Modal consistency model?

By: Paul A. Clayton (paaronclayton.delete@this.gmail.com), August 9, 2022 11:10 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
rwessel (rwessel.delete@this.yahoo.com) on August 9, 2022 9:32 am wrote:
> Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on August 9, 2022 8:41 am wrote:
[snip]
>> It is relatively easy to add to an architecture but much harder to remove features/functionality.
>>
>> So Alpha could fix the lack of byte instructions by adding them to later versions of the architecture.
>
> OTH, the excessively relaxed memory consistency model was pretty baked in, and a PITA forever.

I think Alpha only provided a generic, full-strength memory barrier instruction (quick glance at 1998 Handbook), so it would be more difficult to treat memory barriers are nops when hardware implements a stronger consistency model. (I suspect that this was a mistake even if every intention was to avoid stronger consistency models forever. It seems reasonable — to a complete outsider — that handling the general case is harder/slower than handling constrained cases.) However, all existing (correct) software would be compatible under a stronger consistency model (merely slower than necessary because of the unnecessary memory barriers).

Providing mode bits for memory consistency would allow later software to use less relaxed models (whether just fewer memory barriers or different methods — especially if assuming memory barriers are expensive).

Such would probably have been unpopular at Digital and performance of stronger memory models would probably not be given priority (performance would probably not be as bad as Itanium's hardware x86 performance but that is a low bar).

My guess would be that most of the software did not depend on memory ordering at the source code level, so a recompile would be sufficient to "port" that software.

I do not think that a technical barrier prevented Alpha from supporting a stronger consistency model. Adding mode bits is npretty baked in, and a PITA foreverot pretty and might require OS changes (I suspect Alpha's PAL code abstraction may have limited the necessary changes.), but I do not think such means that the consistency model was "pretty baked in". I suspect "a PITA forever" would/did come morepretty baked in, and a PITA forever from a lack of desire to change the architecture. Of course, Digital did not have abundant resources for such a change (even if the engineers were convinced that the extremely relaxed consistency model hindered software development more than it helped hardware development).

(It is not clear how a multi-consistency model processor design project would be managed. Any design effort, area, or power used to improve performance under strong consistency might be viewed as wasted when running code written for weak consistency — including single-threaded code. While some design features and cleverness would be "a rising tide that raises all boats", managers would have to set targets which will be somewhat arbitrary and penalize some aspects of the design team. A significant change in goals will tend to seem especially unfair as new aspects will receive a disproportionate fraction of available resources in order. If a weak consistency mode provided no benefits, one could reasonably argue that the design is very biased and there is no reason to support modal operation; if strong consistency mode is considerably slower — especially for single-threaded code —, software developers are much less likely to use it making the effort worth much less. While Digital was expecting to get only a 10x multiprocessor performance benefit over the life of Alpha, even that would lowish target would seem to benefit from faster synchronization.)
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                                                                      Variable length instructionsBrett2022/08/19 03:54 PM
                                                                        Variable length instructionsrwessel2022/08/19 06:39 PM
                                                                      Variable length instructionszArchJon2022/08/20 05:35 AM
                                                      Immediates and placement of constantsMatt Sayler2022/08/15 04:26 PM
                                      Immediates and placement of constantsanonymou52022/08/04 07:36 PM
                                  Immediates and placement of constantsrwessel2022/08/04 06:22 AM
                                    Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/05 02:30 AM
                                      Immediates and placement of constantsnksingh2022/08/05 12:05 PM
                      Immediates and placement of constantsDoug S2022/08/03 10:44 AM
                        Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/03 04:07 PM
                          Immediates and placement of constants---2022/08/04 06:33 PM
                            Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/04 06:51 PM
                              Immediates and placement of constants---2022/08/05 01:44 PM
                                Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/05 04:22 PM
                    Immediates and placement of constantsKonrad Schwarz2022/08/03 05:05 AM
                    Immediates and placement of constantsKonrad Schwarz2022/08/03 05:05 AM
                      Immediates and placement of constantsEtienne2022/08/04 03:22 AM
              Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/02 08:26 PM
    SorryRayla2022/07/28 04:56 AM
      Don't apologizeMark Roulo2022/07/28 11:34 AM
        Don't apologizeRayla2022/07/28 12:32 PM
          Make sure banries are stripped and check if O2/3 is smaller? (NT)iz2022/07/28 01:36 PM
            All binaries were stripped (NT)Rayla2022/07/28 02:51 PM
          Don't apologizeanon22022/07/28 02:53 PM
            Don't apologizeRayla2022/07/28 03:09 PM
              Don't apologizeAnon2022/07/28 03:26 PM
          Don't apologizeWilco2022/07/29 01:22 AM
        Don't apologizeBjörn Ragnar Björnsson2022/07/28 07:29 PM
        Don't apologizeLinus Torvalds2022/07/29 09:09 AM
          Don't apologizeRayla2022/07/29 01:09 PM
            Don't apologizeKonrad Schwarz2022/08/02 09:00 AM
              Don't apologizeWilco2022/08/02 06:08 PM
                Please read the earlier replies. rodata is relevant (NT)Heikki Kultala2022/08/02 06:13 PM
              The effect of statically linked libsMarcus2022/08/09 12:25 PM
                The effect of statically linked libsdmcq2022/08/09 02:31 PM
                  The effect of statically linked libsdmcq2022/08/11 09:52 AM
                    The effect of statically linked libsEtienne2022/08/12 12:46 AM
                      The effect of statically linked libsdmcq2022/08/14 04:19 AM
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