Hopefully, you realize how atypical you are.

By: Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org), August 21, 2022 3:45 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on August 21, 2022 2:27 am wrote:
> Hopefully, you realize how atypical you are.


I am also among those atypical users who need all the PCIe cards enumerated by the parent poster, and more.

Nevertheless, there are many years since I no longer think about the computers with such cards as being "desktop computers".

I have about half a dozen computers with ATX or EEB motherboards, which are mounted in pedestal cases which sit on the top of some IKEA metallic tables, so they may be called as "desktop" computers, depending on what meaning is assigned to "desk".

If by "desk" is meant not any desk-like object, but the table on which my keyboard and monitors sit, when I am using them, then they are not "desktop computers".


In my opinion, as a personal computer for a non-gamer, there is no need for a computer with a maximum power consumption for CPU+GPU higher than 45 W, i.e. for something more powerful than the latest Intel/AMD H/P CPUs or the similar Apple CPUs, with integrated GPUs. A continuous CPU+GPU power dissipation of 45 W can be supported without excessive noise even by a case with a volume as low as 0.7 L, so I do not consider that the PCs with volumes much higher than 1 L provide any advantage.

A SFF desktop, like an Intel NUC, when provided with enough DRAM and SSD (currently there are an increasing number of applications that need 64 GB DRAM), is sufficient for the majority of work or entertainment activities, e.g. viewing and editing documents or programs, incremental compilation of even large software projects, simulation, graphics/layout drawing, 3D modelling, movie viewing and so on.


For more demanding applications, from time to time a SFF computer is either not fast enough or it may not support appropriate peripherals.

At such times, I start a server, from the SFF, through Wake-on-LAN, and I pass the job to it, e.g. to benefit from a CPU with many cores for the complete compilation of a large software project, or to run a CUDA program on a 300 W GPU, or to use a magnetic tape unit connected to a PCIe HBA SAS adapter, or to use my last remaining PCI (parallel) card, a video capture card, on an ATX MB that still has a PCI connector.

When there are multiple servers, they need fast interconnections between them, e.g. 10 Gb/s or 40 Gb/s (which is not much more expensive than 10 Gb/s), preferably using multiple-port PCIe NICs, to provide a grid of interconnection links.


A large ATX or EEB computer may have times of intense use, e.g. a simulation for a complex integrated circuit can easily take one week of continuous running, but even in professional work you spend many hours or days only looking at the computer screen with sporadic small edits. During such times, it makes no sense to keep a behemoth computer powered up.

So in my opinion, except for hard gamers, a large *personal* computer, i.e. with which you interact directly, is not a wise choice, even if large computers are as useful as ever, both for professional users and for those who have as a hobby various creative activities that use computers.


Even pricewise, a combination between a SFF computer and an ATX tower server is not necessarily much more expensive than a single fully-loaded ATX desktop computer.

The reason is that depending on the desired applications the servers can be simplified in comparison with a personal desktop computer.

For example, none of my servers includes any kind of non-volatile storage device. In the rare occasions when a storage device is needed, I can connect an external SSD or HDD.

When I wake up the server directly connected to my desktop, I boot it through Ethernet, using a RAM disk. From that server, I can wake up and also boot through Ethernet the other servers, using RAM disks too. I send the job and I retrieve the results through Ethernet.

The servers also do not need GPUs, unless their purpose is to host big GPUs, to do things that cannot be done on an integrated GPU.





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                                                Immediates and placement of constantsBrett2022/08/05 10:10 AM
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                                                                                          Trolling rather than crazy.Brett2022/08/14 04:11 PM
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                                                                                                        Hopefully, you realize how atypical you are.Adrian2022/08/21 03:45 AM
                                                                                                          Hopefully, you realize how atypical you are.David Hess2022/08/24 12:55 PM
                                                                                                            Hopefully, you realize how atypical you are.Peter E. Fry2022/08/25 06:18 AM
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                                                                                                        Hopefully, you realize how atypical you are.David Hess2022/08/24 12:48 PM
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                                                                                                        vector fp internal representationsAnon2022/08/16 03:50 AM
                                                                                                        vector fp internal representationshobold2022/08/16 11:07 AM
                                                                                                          vector fp internal representationsMichael S2022/08/17 03:25 AM
                                                                                                            vector fp internal representationshobold2022/08/17 05:00 AM
                                                                                                    separate scalar fp vs using vector datapath as fp datapathrwessel2022/08/16 06:12 AM
                                                                                                      separate scalar fp vs using vector datapath as fp datapathMarcus2022/08/16 06:52 AM
                                                                                                        separate scalar fp vs using vector datapath as fp datapathAnon2022/08/16 08:01 AM
                                                                                                          separate scalar fp vs using vector datapath as fp datapathMarcus2022/08/16 10:07 AM
                                                                                                separate scalar fp vs using vector datapath as fp datapathHeikki Kultala2022/08/15 09:23 PM
                                                                                                  separate scalar fp vs using vector datapath as fp datapathMichael S2022/08/16 04:07 AM
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                                                                                                Makes no sense at allMichael S2022/08/16 08:31 AM
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                                                                                    68K, derivative and subsetBrett2022/08/13 05:44 PM
                                                                                      68K, derivative and subsetMegol2022/08/18 05:14 AM
                                                                                68K, derivative and subsetBrett2022/08/12 03:32 AM
                                                                                68K, derivative and subsetMarcus2022/08/13 07:14 AM
                                                                                  68K, derivative and subsetMegol2022/08/13 12:22 PM
                                                                                    68K, derivative and subsetrwessel2022/08/13 01:53 PM
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                                                                      Modal consistency model?rwessel2022/08/09 11:43 AM
                                                                    ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalMichael S2022/08/10 05:11 AM
                                                                  ISA simplicity, evolution and survival---2022/08/09 09:24 AM
                                                                    ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalSimon Farnsworth2022/08/10 12:16 AM
                                                                      ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalAnon2022/08/11 03:27 AM
                                                                        ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalSimon Farnsworth2022/08/11 04:26 AM
                                                                          ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalAnon2022/08/11 10:53 AM
                                                                            ISA simplicity, evolution and survival---2022/08/11 04:43 PM
                                                                              ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalAnon2022/08/11 05:20 PM
                                                                                ISA simplicity, evolution and survival---2022/08/11 07:07 PM
                                                                              ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalanon22022/08/11 06:25 PM
                                                                        ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalAdrian2022/08/11 10:10 PM
                                                                          ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalAnon2022/08/11 10:40 PM
                                                                          ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalanon22022/08/11 11:11 PM
                                                                  ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalBjörn Ragnar Björnsson2022/08/09 01:36 PM
                                                                    ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalDoug S2022/08/09 08:19 PM
                                                                      ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalMichael S2022/08/10 05:54 AM
                                                                        ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalDoug S2022/08/10 08:09 AM
                                                                          ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalMark Roulo2022/08/10 08:34 AM
                                                                            ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalMichael S2022/08/10 09:52 AM
                                                                            ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalrwessel2022/08/10 10:48 AM
                                                                              ISA simplicity, evolution and survivaldmcq2022/08/11 02:37 AM
                                                                                ISA simplicity, evolution and survivalrwessel2022/08/11 05:40 AM
                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsdmcq2022/08/08 09:23 AM
                                                        Immediates and placement of constantsDoug S2022/08/07 04:39 PM
                                                Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/05 01:00 PM
                                                Immediates and placement of constants---2022/08/05 01:57 PM
                                          Immediates and placement of constantsDoug S2022/08/05 10:18 AM
                                            Immediates and placement of constantsdmcq2022/08/05 11:09 AM
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                                              Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/13 07:54 AM
                                                Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/13 10:12 AM
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                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/13 11:54 AM
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                                                    Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/15 04:21 AM
                                                      Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/15 05:47 AM
                                                        Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/15 01:53 PM
                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/15 02:11 PM
                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/15 03:07 PM
                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/15 03:32 PM
                                                                Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/15 04:47 PM
                                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/15 06:24 PM
                                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsBrett2022/08/15 10:43 PM
                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsDoug S2022/08/15 08:52 PM
                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/16 03:53 AM
                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/16 04:44 AM
                                                                Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/16 05:12 AM
                                                                Immediates and placement of constantsMichael S2022/08/17 03:39 AM
                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/16 05:23 AM
                                                                Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/16 06:16 AM
                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/16 02:21 AM
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                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsSimon Farnsworth2022/08/16 02:55 AM
                                                      Immediates and placement of constantsEtienne2022/08/15 06:21 AM
                                                        Immediates and placement of constantsdmcq2022/08/15 07:05 AM
                                                        Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/15 01:00 PM
                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsnoko2022/08/15 02:37 PM
                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/15 04:09 PM
                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/15 04:13 PM
                                                                Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/15 08:01 PM
                                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/16 03:31 AM
                                                                    Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/16 06:46 PM
                                                                      Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/16 06:57 PM
                                                                        Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/16 09:08 PM
                                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsnone2022/08/17 01:18 AM
                                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/17 01:44 AM
                                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsEtienne2022/08/17 03:05 AM
                                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/17 03:43 AM
                                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsMichael S2022/08/17 04:11 AM
                                                                                Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/17 05:00 AM
                                                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsnone2022/08/17 05:23 AM
                                                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/17 06:48 AM
                                                                                    Immediates and placement of constantsrwessel2022/08/17 03:20 PM
                                                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsDoug S2022/08/17 08:59 AM
                                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsnone2022/08/17 05:21 AM
                                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsiz2022/08/20 12:07 AM
                                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/17 01:15 PM
                                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/17 04:44 PM
                                                                              You must be trollingAnon2022/08/17 05:30 PM
                                                                                You must be trollinganon22022/08/17 06:26 PM
                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsnoko2022/08/15 06:00 PM
                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/15 09:09 PM
                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsEtienne2022/08/16 02:35 AM
                                                      Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/15 08:07 AM
                                                        Immediates and placement of constantsMarcys2022/08/15 08:50 AM
                                                          Immediates and placement of constantsrwessel2022/08/16 04:21 AM
                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/16 04:45 AM
                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsrwessel2022/08/16 06:26 AM
                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/16 05:26 AM
                                                            Immediates and placement of constantsSimon Farnsworth2022/08/16 07:23 AM
                                                              Immediates and placement of constantsrwessel2022/08/16 08:26 AM
                                                                Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/16 08:56 AM
                                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsWilco Dijkstra2022/08/16 09:15 AM
                                                                    Immediates and placement of constantsrwessel2022/08/16 06:24 PM
                                                                  Immediates and placement of constantsMarcus2022/08/16 09:25 AM
                                                                    Encoding instructions in 128-bit bundlesMarcus2022/08/16 09:55 AM
                                                                    Immediates and placement of constantsrwessel2022/08/16 06:20 PM
                                                                      Immediates - cutting code sizedmcq2022/08/17 01:33 AM
                                                                        Immediates - cutting code sizeMarcus2022/08/17 01:58 AM
                                                                          Immediates - cutting code sizeMarcus2022/08/17 02:18 AM
                                                                        It's horrible. As is any hidden state. (NT)Michael S2022/08/17 03:30 AM
                                                                          I tend to agree (don't even have a CC reg) - just trying ideas (NT)Marcus2022/08/17 04:05 AM
                                                                          It's horrible. As is any hidden state.dmcq2022/08/17 05:56 AM
                                                            Variable length instructionsDoug S2022/08/16 08:49 AM
                                                              Variable length instructionsMark Roulo2022/08/16 03:05 PM
                                                                Variable length is last warBrett2022/08/16 05:07 PM
                                                                  Variable length is last warMarcus2022/08/16 10:07 PM
                                                                    Variable length is last warBrett2022/08/17 12:03 AM
                                                                      Variable length is last warBrett2022/08/17 12:13 PM
                                                                        Variable length is last warBrett2022/08/17 02:02 PM
                                                                Variable length instructionsAndrew Clough2022/08/17 04:25 AM
                                                                  Variable length instructionsMark Roulo2022/08/17 07:12 AM
                                                                    Variable length instructionsTim Mc2022/08/17 01:57 PM
                                                                  Variable length instructionsAdrian2022/08/17 09:33 PM
                                                                    Variable length instructionsAdrian2022/08/17 09:38 PM
                                                                    Variable length instructionsDoug S2022/08/18 09:37 AM
                                                                Variable length instructionszArchJon2022/08/19 09:52 AM
                                                                  Variable length instructionsBrett2022/08/19 10:41 AM
                                                                    Variable length instructionsrwessel2022/08/19 01:23 PM
                                                                      Variable length instructionsBrett2022/08/19 03:54 PM
                                                                        Variable length instructionsrwessel2022/08/19 06:39 PM
                                                                      Variable length instructionszArchJon2022/08/20 05:35 AM
                                                      Immediates and placement of constantsMatt Sayler2022/08/15 04:26 PM
                                      Immediates and placement of constantsanonymou52022/08/04 07:36 PM
                                  Immediates and placement of constantsrwessel2022/08/04 06:22 AM
                                    Immediates and placement of constantsWilco2022/08/05 02:30 AM
                                      Immediates and placement of constantsnksingh2022/08/05 12:05 PM
                      Immediates and placement of constantsDoug S2022/08/03 10:44 AM
                        Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/03 04:07 PM
                          Immediates and placement of constants---2022/08/04 06:33 PM
                            Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/04 06:51 PM
                              Immediates and placement of constants---2022/08/05 01:44 PM
                                Immediates and placement of constantsanon22022/08/05 04:22 PM
                    Immediates and placement of constantsKonrad Schwarz2022/08/03 05:05 AM
                    Immediates and placement of constantsKonrad Schwarz2022/08/03 05:05 AM
                      Immediates and placement of constantsEtienne2022/08/04 03:22 AM
              Immediates and placement of constantsAnon2022/08/02 08:26 PM
    SorryRayla2022/07/28 04:56 AM
      Don't apologizeMark Roulo2022/07/28 11:34 AM
        Don't apologizeRayla2022/07/28 12:32 PM
          Make sure banries are stripped and check if O2/3 is smaller? (NT)iz2022/07/28 01:36 PM
            All binaries were stripped (NT)Rayla2022/07/28 02:51 PM
          Don't apologizeanon22022/07/28 02:53 PM
            Don't apologizeRayla2022/07/28 03:09 PM
              Don't apologizeAnon2022/07/28 03:26 PM
          Don't apologizeWilco2022/07/29 01:22 AM
        Don't apologizeBjörn Ragnar Björnsson2022/07/28 07:29 PM
        Don't apologizeLinus Torvalds2022/07/29 09:09 AM
          Don't apologizeRayla2022/07/29 01:09 PM
            Don't apologizeKonrad Schwarz2022/08/02 09:00 AM
              Don't apologizeWilco2022/08/02 06:08 PM
                Please read the earlier replies. rodata is relevant (NT)Heikki Kultala2022/08/02 06:13 PM
              The effect of statically linked libsMarcus2022/08/09 12:25 PM
                The effect of statically linked libsdmcq2022/08/09 02:31 PM
                  The effect of statically linked libsdmcq2022/08/11 09:52 AM
                    The effect of statically linked libsEtienne2022/08/12 12:46 AM
                      The effect of statically linked libsdmcq2022/08/14 04:19 AM
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