By: Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com), July 29, 2022 10:02 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on July 28, 2022 9:00 pm wrote:
> Wes Felter (wmf.delete@this.felter.org) on July 28, 2022 7:53 pm wrote:
> > Intel To Wind Down Optane Memory Business - 3D XPoint Storage Tech Reaches Its End
> >
> > Even though it never lived up to Intel's promises I'm not aware of any
> > alternative persistent memory tech. I guess that whole field is over.
>
>
> Few are going to miss it, or even notice it is gone.
I have been watching 3dXPoint since it came out because the combination of (a) lower price than DRAM, (b) fits in a DRAM DIMM socket and (c) many more write cycles than Flash was very nice.
One of my employers has a load with a lot of fairly static cached data that we would like to read from DRAM because we want ~10 GB/sec reads. You can get this with Flash but we do write often enough that wear becomes an issue. So today we ship DRAM. 3DXPoint was cheaper per bit, but ...
The catch was that we'd need to buy SO MUCH 3DXpoint that the price/performance didn't work out.
I kept watching hoping that things would improve (for us) but not really expecting things to improve.
Now I can stop hoping.
I do wonder if there was a fundamental issue where Intel *had* to price this where they did and couldn't economically make smaller capacity DIMMs or if this was just a business decision.
> Wes Felter (wmf.delete@this.felter.org) on July 28, 2022 7:53 pm wrote:
> > Intel To Wind Down Optane Memory Business - 3D XPoint Storage Tech Reaches Its End
> >
> > Even though it never lived up to Intel's promises I'm not aware of any
> > alternative persistent memory tech. I guess that whole field is over.
>
>
> Few are going to miss it, or even notice it is gone.
I have been watching 3dXPoint since it came out because the combination of (a) lower price than DRAM, (b) fits in a DRAM DIMM socket and (c) many more write cycles than Flash was very nice.
One of my employers has a load with a lot of fairly static cached data that we would like to read from DRAM because we want ~10 GB/sec reads. You can get this with Flash but we do write often enough that wear becomes an issue. So today we ship DRAM. 3DXPoint was cheaper per bit, but ...
The catch was that we'd need to buy SO MUCH 3DXpoint that the price/performance didn't work out.
I kept watching hoping that things would improve (for us) but not really expecting things to improve.
Now I can stop hoping.
I do wonder if there was a fundamental issue where Intel *had* to price this where they did and couldn't economically make smaller capacity DIMMs or if this was just a business decision.
Topic | Posted By | Date |
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RIP Optane/XPoint | Wes Felter | 2022/07/28 07:53 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Rayla | 2022/07/28 08:28 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Doug S | 2022/07/28 09:00 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | NoSpammer | 2022/07/29 01:50 AM |
NVDIMM-N | Eric L | 2022/07/29 03:36 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Michael S | 2022/07/29 04:02 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Doug S | 2022/07/29 10:40 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Doug S | 2022/07/29 10:43 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Linus Torvalds | 2022/07/29 11:20 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | David Hess | 2022/07/29 08:59 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | David Hess | 2022/07/30 03:44 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Doug S | 2022/07/30 10:43 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | rwessel | 2022/07/31 05:33 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Konrad Schwarz | 2022/08/02 08:06 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | David Hess | 2022/08/02 10:24 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | David Hess | 2022/08/02 10:26 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Adrian | 2022/08/03 01:19 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | anonymou5 | 2022/07/29 12:50 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Gionatan Danti | 2022/07/29 09:09 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Mark Roulo | 2022/07/29 10:02 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | dmcq | 2022/07/30 03:42 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | anon3 | 2022/07/31 10:19 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | anon2 | 2022/07/31 10:55 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Doug S | 2022/08/01 08:37 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Gionatan Danti | 2022/08/01 01:33 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | NoSpammer | 2022/08/02 03:50 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Doug S | 2022/08/02 09:24 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Gionatan Danti | 2022/08/02 10:34 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | --- | 2022/08/02 10:39 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | David Hess | 2022/08/03 03:48 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Michael S | 2022/08/03 06:04 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | David Hess | 2022/08/03 08:56 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Adrian | 2022/08/01 02:15 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Gionatan Danti | 2022/08/01 06:07 AM |
Losses vs not profitable enough | Mark Roulo | 2022/08/01 10:15 AM |
Losses vs not profitable enough | dmcq | 2022/08/01 11:50 AM |
Losses vs not profitable enough | Gionatan Danti | 2022/08/01 12:34 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Michael S | 2022/08/01 02:47 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Anon | 2022/08/01 03:09 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Michael S | 2022/08/01 03:32 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Groo | 2022/08/01 12:28 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | anon3 | 2022/08/01 10:33 PM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | Groo | 2022/08/03 11:15 AM |
RIP Optane/XPoint | --- | 2022/08/03 03:05 PM |
Latency | David Kanter | 2022/07/29 06:35 PM |
Operating system and driver overhead | Eric L | 2022/07/29 03:44 AM |
Operating system and driver overhead | Linus Torvalds | 2022/07/29 10:45 AM |
altrernatives? | Michael S | 2022/07/29 05:17 AM |
altrernatives? | Rayla | 2022/07/29 06:49 AM |