68K was not a kludge

By: none (none.delete@this.none.com), August 8, 2022 1:00 am
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Brett (ggtgp.delete@this.yahoo.com) on August 7, 2022 9:56 pm wrote:
> Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on August 7, 2022 6:05 pm wrote:
> > Brett (ggtgp.delete@this.yahoo.com) on August 7, 2022 5:37 pm wrote:
> >
> > > As much as I once loved the 68000, it is a horrid kludge that was
> > > just thrown together without an understanding of software.
> >
> > The 68000 was designed in an era when serious programming was done
> > in assembly rather than in C or something even higher level.
> >
> > An understanding that simpler instructions (especially regarding addressing
> > modes and decode simplicity) combined with a cache was better came later.
>
> The 68000 was the poor man’s VAX, that is the sum total of the thinking going into the design.

That's still better than 8086 that was designed to be a glorified i8085 even to the point of
having an assembler that was able to translate i85 to i86 code.

Now we should start some emacs vs vi discussion for the fun :-)
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