Mobile vs. server license

By: Doug S (, August 31, 2022 9:31 pm
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UMsCode ( on August 31, 2022 9:00 pm wrote:
> anon ( on August 31, 2022 6:50 pm wrote:
> > Wes Felter ( on August 31, 2022 4:47 pm wrote:
> > > The Register adds a tidbit: "According to people familiar with the matter, Qualcomm's architectural
> > > license today is limited to its mobile processors, while Nuvia's applies to datacenter chips."
> >
> > Odd, since Centriq was a custom implementation, thus should have required a license. Or did ARM do
> > some shenanigans with needing new licenses for newer architecture versions? Perhaps Nuvia's is a V9.
> Who Owns Nuvia's Underlying Micro-architectural design that's engineered to execute that Licensed ARM ISA? And
> I can not Imagine that ARM Claims the rights to that as that's not ARM Holdings' IP. So on Modern CPU designs

ARM doesn't have to claim ownership of Nuvia's designs, they are only claiming the right under their license to prevent Qualcomm from selling chips with unlicensed ARM cores. The designs remain the property of Qualcomm/Nuvia, they just can't be used under the terms of the ARM architectural license.

I had no idea that licenses were specific to a particular use, but if that's the case then it sounds like Qualcomm missed a HUGE due diligence step when they acquired Nuvia of making sure the license transfer was OK'ed before completing the purchase.
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