By: AnonSoft (a.delete@this.anonsoft.com), January 30, 2023 5:34 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
hobold (hobold.delete@this.vectorizer.org) on January 30, 2023 11:39 am wrote:
> AnonSoft (a.delete@this.anonsoft.com) on January 30, 2023 10:01 am wrote:
>
> [...]
> > Intel cannot do much till the better fab
> > processes come along. It's not like software where the bits are essentially free to replicate.
> >
>
> Well, Intel's switch to BIG.little was a pretty genius way of squeezing lemon juice out of the
> lemon that their 10nm process is, compared to the TSMC silicon that AMD's Zen is made of. That
> move was creativity winning over brute force shrinking. It didn't solve all problems, but allowed
> Intel to sort of keep up, despite their fundamental disadvantage in transistor density.
Meh ... I'm not a big fan considering the extra complexity in OS software support and it being restricted to Windows 11. For my use cases, I'd prefer the simplicity and predictability of similar cores.
> AnonSoft (a.delete@this.anonsoft.com) on January 30, 2023 10:01 am wrote:
>
> [...]
> > Intel cannot do much till the better fab
> > processes come along. It's not like software where the bits are essentially free to replicate.
> >
>
> Well, Intel's switch to BIG.little was a pretty genius way of squeezing lemon juice out of the
> lemon that their 10nm process is, compared to the TSMC silicon that AMD's Zen is made of. That
> move was creativity winning over brute force shrinking. It didn't solve all problems, but allowed
> Intel to sort of keep up, despite their fundamental disadvantage in transistor density.
Meh ... I'm not a big fan considering the extra complexity in OS software support and it being restricted to Windows 11. For my use cases, I'd prefer the simplicity and predictability of similar cores.
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