By: Chris G (chrisg.delete@this.chrisg.com), January 31, 2023 5:47 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
> If you need to support your position around misleading and inflammatory rhetoric, then it is pretty flimsy.
> ...
> I mean sure we'd all love to smash the patriarchy and abolish money and live on communes where
> everybody contributes to grow wheat and silicon ingots and nobody goes without food or RTX 4090s
> ...
> At this point some zealot is claim it's evil for anybody to charge money for software, but we can safely ignore those people.
I have no interest in living on a commune and I understand why all software is not free.
With Intel On Demand (crippleware), customers are being asked to pay extra for features what are needed to make Sapphire Rapids close to competitive with the alternatives. The base prices of Sapphire Rapids are already 1.5x to 1.8x higher than AMD’s Genoa processor per unit of compute (core x GHz). Intel should be doing everything possible to encourage use of the on-die accelerators in Sapphire Rapids, not discourage their use. Intel needs customers to use the on-die accelerators to have a competitive product. That’s why Intel On Demand is a dumb idea.
> ...
> I mean sure we'd all love to smash the patriarchy and abolish money and live on communes where
> everybody contributes to grow wheat and silicon ingots and nobody goes without food or RTX 4090s
> ...
> At this point some zealot is claim it's evil for anybody to charge money for software, but we can safely ignore those people.
I have no interest in living on a commune and I understand why all software is not free.
With Intel On Demand (crippleware), customers are being asked to pay extra for features what are needed to make Sapphire Rapids close to competitive with the alternatives. The base prices of Sapphire Rapids are already 1.5x to 1.8x higher than AMD’s Genoa processor per unit of compute (core x GHz). Intel should be doing everything possible to encourage use of the on-die accelerators in Sapphire Rapids, not discourage their use. Intel needs customers to use the on-die accelerators to have a competitive product. That’s why Intel On Demand is a dumb idea.
| Topic | Posted By | Date |
|---|---|---|
| NYT on SPR | --- | 2023/01/26 10:37 AM |
| NYT on SPR | Chris G | 2023/01/26 06:02 PM |
| NYT on SPR | me | 2023/01/26 07:44 PM |
| NYT on SPR | Anne O. Nymous | 2023/01/27 01:09 AM |
| NYT on SPR | Michael S | 2023/01/27 03:22 AM |
| NYT on SPR | --- | 2023/01/27 10:31 AM |
| Pat has been trimming the Intel product portfolio | Mark Roulo | 2023/01/27 01:29 PM |
| NYT on SPR | James | 2023/01/27 02:00 PM |
| NYT on SPR | Adrian | 2023/01/28 03:55 AM |
| NYT on SPR | anonymou5 | 2023/01/28 04:03 AM |
| NYT on SPR | Adrian | 2023/01/28 04:14 AM |
| NYT on SPR | Groo | 2023/01/29 09:50 AM |
| NYT on SPR | Groo | 2023/01/29 09:46 AM |
| NYT on SPR | Brendan | 2023/01/29 01:00 PM |
| NYT on SPR | Anon4 | 2023/01/29 04:06 PM |
| NYT on SPR | Brendan | 2023/01/29 07:03 PM |
| NYT on SPR | Groo | 2023/01/30 07:09 AM |
| NYT on SPR | Groo | 2023/01/29 09:39 AM |
| NYT on SPR | AnonSoft | 2023/01/30 11:01 AM |
| NYT on SPR | hobold | 2023/01/30 12:39 PM |
| NYT on SPR | AnonSoft | 2023/01/30 05:34 PM |
| NYT on SPR | hobold | 2023/01/31 04:40 AM |
| NYT on SPR | Jukka Larja | 2023/01/31 07:13 AM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Mark Heath | 2023/02/01 04:45 AM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Freddie | 2023/02/01 05:05 AM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Mark Heath | 2023/02/01 06:42 AM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Freddie | 2023/02/01 09:54 AM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Mark Heath | 2023/02/01 04:45 PM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | —- | 2023/02/02 04:35 PM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Freddie | 2023/02/02 04:39 PM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | --- | 2023/02/03 12:15 PM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Freddie | 2023/02/03 03:46 PM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Anne O. Nymous | 2023/02/03 12:57 AM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | --- | 2023/02/03 12:35 PM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Anne O. Nymous | 2023/02/03 01:35 PM |
| different big/little split.. | Heikki Kultala | 2023/02/03 02:33 PM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Paul H | 2023/02/03 06:51 PM |
| Heterogeneous CPU Cores With OpenMP | Jukka Larja | 2023/02/01 06:24 AM |
| When heavily loaded, Threads run about equally fast on E-cores than P-cores | Heikki Kultala | 2023/02/01 02:08 PM |
| NYT on SPR | Chester | 2023/01/27 09:30 AM |
| use archive.org | anon | 2023/01/27 06:08 PM |
| Bypassing paywalls | Doug S | 2023/01/28 02:05 PM |
| NYT on SPR | Chris G | 2023/01/27 06:54 PM |
| Intel On Demand | Chris G | 2023/01/28 04:24 AM |
| Intel On Demand | me | 2023/01/28 06:24 AM |
| Intel On Demand | Groo | 2023/01/29 09:53 AM |
| Intel On Demand | rwessel | 2023/01/28 09:41 AM |
| Intel On Demand | --- | 2023/01/28 11:37 AM |
| Anit-waste bias | Paul A. Clayton | 2023/01/28 07:57 PM |
| Intel On Demand | Groo | 2023/01/29 09:58 AM |
| Intel On Demand | Andrey | 2023/01/30 05:04 PM |
| Intel On Demand | blaine | 2023/01/28 03:07 PM |
| Intel On Demand | me | 2023/01/28 03:25 PM |
| Intel On Demand | me | 2023/01/28 03:33 PM |
| Intel On Demand | Chris G | 2023/01/28 07:06 PM |
| Intel On Demand | me | 2023/01/28 07:43 PM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | Björn Ragnar Björnsson | 2023/01/28 10:41 PM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | anonymou5 | 2023/01/29 02:49 AM |
| Sapphire Rapids crippleware is a naked money grab | Chris G | 2023/01/29 04:44 AM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | Groo | 2023/01/29 10:05 AM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | AnotherAnonymousEngineer | 2023/01/29 10:33 AM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | Groo | 2023/01/29 11:16 AM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | dmcq | 2023/01/29 04:32 PM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | Brendan | 2023/01/29 08:01 PM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | Groo | 2023/01/30 07:17 AM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | Freddie | 2023/01/30 11:36 AM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | anon2 | 2023/01/30 07:41 PM |
| Intel On Demand - Validation, certification? | anon2 | 2023/01/31 01:35 AM |
| Crippleware | Chris G | 2023/01/31 05:47 AM |
| Doctorow calls it "enshittification" (NT) | hobold | 2023/01/31 07:55 AM |
| Crippleware | anon2 | 2023/01/31 10:51 AM |
| Crippleware | Groo | 2023/02/01 02:06 PM |
| Crippleware | anon2 | 2023/02/01 05:10 PM |
| Crippleware | Chris G | 2023/02/01 05:52 PM |
| Crippleware | anon2 | 2023/02/01 09:15 PM |
| SPR Volume | me | 2023/02/02 04:47 AM |
| SPR Volume | anon2 | 2023/02/02 07:04 AM |
| Crippleware | Chris G | 2023/02/02 08:12 AM |
| Crippleware | anon2 | 2023/02/02 08:42 AM |
| Crippleware | anon2 | 2023/02/02 08:48 AM |
| Crippleware | Charles | 2023/02/01 01:38 AM |
| Crippleware | Chris G | 2023/02/01 02:59 AM |
| language digression | Matt Sayler | 2023/02/01 04:53 PM |
| Crippleware | me | 2023/02/01 06:27 PM |
| Crippleware | Chris G | 2023/02/01 07:01 PM |
| Crippleware | me | 2023/02/01 07:10 PM |
| Crippleware | Chris G | 2023/02/01 09:32 PM |
| Crippleware | Tony | 2023/02/01 11:18 PM |
| Crippleware | me | 2023/02/02 04:27 AM |
| Crippleware | anonymou5 | 2023/02/02 03:47 AM |
| Crippleware | Chris G | 2023/02/02 05:59 AM |
| Intel On Demand - Enshittification | blaine | 2023/01/30 12:13 AM |
| Intel and mobile phones | James | 2023/01/29 09:09 AM |
| Intel and mobile phones | Maxwell | 2023/01/29 02:25 PM |
| Intel and mobile phones | Groo | 2023/01/30 07:20 AM |
| Intel and mobile phones | anonymous2 | 2023/01/30 11:15 AM |
| Intel and mobile phones | Doug S | 2023/01/30 12:51 PM |
| Intel and mobile phones | Daniel B | 2023/01/31 07:37 AM |
| Intel and mobile phones | Groo | 2023/02/01 02:03 PM |
| SPR HBM | me | 2023/01/29 09:17 AM |
| SPR-W | me | 2023/02/17 05:41 PM |
| Accelerators on AMD/ARM | Chester | 2023/01/29 05:41 PM |
