A Historical Look at the VAX: DEC, NVAX, Alpha and Competitors [Part II] online

Article: A Historical Look at the VAX: DEC, NVAX, Alpha and Competitors
By: Paul DeMone (pdemone.delete@this.igs.net), July 10, 2006 3:26 pm
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Tzvetan Mikov (tmikov@gmail.com) on 7/10/06 wrote:
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>The table on page 2 is very interesting for me. The Pentium Pro had fewer transistors
>than the 21164, slower clock rate and yet it had a competitive specfp and higher specint (!!).
>
>What is the accepted explanation for this ? I figure it is the OoO which obviously favors integer code.

In the same process feature size (0.35 um) the in-order
21164 easily outperformed PPro on integer benchmarks:

EV56:
433 MHz - 13.3 SPECint95
500 MHz - 15.4 "
600 MHz - 19.3 "

PPro/512:

166 MHz - 7.28 "
200 MHz - 8.71 "


>
>However: Why did a OoO implementation of the x86 ISA need fewer transistors than
>an in-order implementation of Alpha ? Am I misreading the numbers (e.g. most of
>the transistors in teh Alpha could have been in the L3 cache, etc) ?

The 21164A had 9.8m transistors of which cache consumed
over 7m transistors.

The PPro needed 5.5m transistors of which cache (L1 only
on chip) consumed about 1m transistors.

That leaves <3m logic transistors in the EV5 core vs >4m
transistors for the P6 core.
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