By: Linus Torvalds (torvalds.delete@this.linux-foundation.org), January 6, 2009 2:04 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Joern Engel (joern@logfs.org) on 1/6/09 wrote:
>
>In particular, could you explain what the "right technical
>solution" is without depending on "Most filesystems..." as
>a basis? Majority votes are rarely a good design choice. ;)
The only sane flash model is one where the hardware itself
does the block remapping.
And no, this is not about "most filesystems" or about any
majority voting. It's a simple technical fact.
The simple fact is that exposing the internal flash
model to any external software is simply insane. You'd
never suggest that software should know about the exact
details of RAM DIMM addressing, and know about open
pages and the size and organization of banks.
Anybody today realizes that that would be total insanity,
and that you have a DRAM controller that does all that
in hardware. Yes, it will have a software component to it
to set things up, but even that component is effectively
hidden and done automatically. Not even system software
really ever needs to know.
Yes, flash is a bit more complex. It's not just about
timing rules and dynamic decisions about which pages to
keep open - because of the wear issues, you actually have
to keep track of long-term decisions. But the issues are
really no different.
It's simply insane to expect filesystems to know or care
about the odd flash rules of some particular chip. Yes,
it can be done, and yes, it has been done, but it
makes it no less insane. You need to have a flash controller
there anyway to wiggle the pins at the right
timing, and the only technically sane model is that that
flash controller also adds enough indirection that the
result can be treated as a single linear block device.
End result: if you see a flash disk that doesn't already
do wear levelling, that doesn't already do block remapping,
and that doesn't already handle random writes well, just
walk away.
It's that simple: the people who are trying to sell you
that crap are technically incompetent. You shouldn't buy
it, because you know it's crap. It was acceptable a couple
of years ago, but hey, so was doing the MFM encoding in
software for disks. It's not acceptable any more.
A software stack that isn't connected to the manufacturer
of the flash (ie a "generic flash remapping layer" like the
Linux UBI layer) simply cannot ever do as good a job as
just doing the thing on the flash controller. The flash
controller can take advantage of the physical behavior of
the flash much better, and can generally be tuned to one
particular type.
Yes, we'll probably see flash translation layers remain in
some extreme embedded environments, but certainly not in
any sane situation. And quite frankly, I doubt the "extreme
embedded" case remains very long either - since you end
up basically needing it even for the cheapest possible SD
card, the economics of scale actually pretty much argue for
raw flash devices not being all that relevant for anything
but firmware that gets updated a couple of times a year
and doesn't even need any of the whole remapping crud.
Linus
>
>In particular, could you explain what the "right technical
>solution" is without depending on "Most filesystems..." as
>a basis? Majority votes are rarely a good design choice. ;)
The only sane flash model is one where the hardware itself
does the block remapping.
And no, this is not about "most filesystems" or about any
majority voting. It's a simple technical fact.
The simple fact is that exposing the internal flash
model to any external software is simply insane. You'd
never suggest that software should know about the exact
details of RAM DIMM addressing, and know about open
pages and the size and organization of banks.
Anybody today realizes that that would be total insanity,
and that you have a DRAM controller that does all that
in hardware. Yes, it will have a software component to it
to set things up, but even that component is effectively
hidden and done automatically. Not even system software
really ever needs to know.
Yes, flash is a bit more complex. It's not just about
timing rules and dynamic decisions about which pages to
keep open - because of the wear issues, you actually have
to keep track of long-term decisions. But the issues are
really no different.
It's simply insane to expect filesystems to know or care
about the odd flash rules of some particular chip. Yes,
it can be done, and yes, it has been done, but it
makes it no less insane. You need to have a flash controller
there anyway to wiggle the pins at the right
timing, and the only technically sane model is that that
flash controller also adds enough indirection that the
result can be treated as a single linear block device.
End result: if you see a flash disk that doesn't already
do wear levelling, that doesn't already do block remapping,
and that doesn't already handle random writes well, just
walk away.
It's that simple: the people who are trying to sell you
that crap are technically incompetent. You shouldn't buy
it, because you know it's crap. It was acceptable a couple
of years ago, but hey, so was doing the MFM encoding in
software for disks. It's not acceptable any more.
A software stack that isn't connected to the manufacturer
of the flash (ie a "generic flash remapping layer" like the
Linux UBI layer) simply cannot ever do as good a job as
just doing the thing on the flash controller. The flash
controller can take advantage of the physical behavior of
the flash much better, and can generally be tuned to one
particular type.
Yes, we'll probably see flash translation layers remain in
some extreme embedded environments, but certainly not in
any sane situation. And quite frankly, I doubt the "extreme
embedded" case remains very long either - since you end
up basically needing it even for the cheapest possible SD
card, the economics of scale actually pretty much argue for
raw flash devices not being all that relevant for anything
but firmware that gets updated a couple of times a year
and doesn't even need any of the whole remapping crud.
Linus
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First Dunnington benchmark results | Michael S | 2008/08/19 10:54 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/19 01:42 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Aaron Apink | 2008/08/19 05:49 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Joe Chang | 2008/08/19 06:28 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/21 09:49 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 03:10 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/21 06:42 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 07:12 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/21 09:45 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 01:12 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 03:15 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Richard Cownie | 2008/08/20 02:59 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Anders Jensen | 2008/08/20 03:26 AM |
+SSD | Anders Jensen | 2008/08/20 03:30 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Richard Cownie | 2008/08/20 11:04 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | slacker | 2008/08/20 12:35 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/20 07:54 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Richard Cownie | 2008/08/20 08:58 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | David Kanter | 2008/08/21 01:16 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Matt Sayler | 2008/08/21 06:25 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Richard Cownie | 2008/08/21 06:32 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/08/21 08:39 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/08/21 09:07 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/08/21 09:52 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/08/21 10:35 AM |
OLTP appliance = mainframe? (NT) | Potatoswatter | 2008/08/21 11:44 AM |
OLTP appliance = HP NonStop? | Michael S | 2008/08/21 12:03 PM |
OLTP appliance | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 03:33 PM |
OLTP appliance | Potatoswatter | 2008/08/21 03:59 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 01:29 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Dan Downs | 2008/08/21 11:33 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2008/08/21 12:45 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Dan Downs | 2008/08/22 08:21 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 01:34 PM |
SLC vs. MLC vs DRAM | pgerassi | 2008/08/21 12:24 PM |
SLC vs. MLC vs DRAM | David Kanter | 2008/08/22 01:31 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Groo | 2008/08/23 12:52 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/21 06:14 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/08/22 08:05 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/22 02:27 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | EduardoS | 2008/08/22 06:26 PM |
SSD Controller differentiation | David Kanter | 2008/08/22 09:35 PM |
SSD Controller differentiation | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/22 10:34 PM |
SSD Controller differentiation (supercaps, cost...) | anon | 2008/08/23 10:18 AM |
SSD Controller differentiation (supercaps, cost...) | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/23 10:40 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/08/23 10:50 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/08 12:03 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Max | 2008/09/08 01:51 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Howard Chu | 2008/09/08 09:04 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Max | 2008/09/08 10:29 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Howard Chu | 2008/09/09 12:12 AM |
RAM vs SSD? | Jouni Osmala | 2008/09/09 01:06 AM |
RAM vs SSD? | Max | 2008/09/12 12:51 PM |
RAM vs SSD? | EduardoS | 2008/09/12 04:27 PM |
Disk cache snapshotting | Max | 2008/09/13 08:34 AM |
Disk cache snapshotting | Howard Chu | 2008/09/14 09:58 PM |
Disk cache snapshotting | Max | 2008/09/15 12:50 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/09 07:43 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Howard Chu | 2008/09/09 09:42 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/09 10:39 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 12:29 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | anon | 2008/09/10 02:51 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 03:09 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Max | 2008/09/10 04:48 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 05:52 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Max | 2008/09/10 06:28 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Matt Sayler | 2008/09/10 06:21 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 09:17 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | anon | 2008/09/10 06:29 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 09:23 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Matt Sayler | 2008/09/10 10:45 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/10 07:25 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 09:54 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/10 10:31 AM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Max | 2008/09/11 07:35 AM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/11 09:06 AM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/11 09:48 AM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/11 11:39 AM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Mark Roulo | 2008/09/11 12:18 PM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/11 05:59 PM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/11 07:16 PM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/11 10:28 PM |
Physical vs effective write latency | MS | 2009/02/03 03:06 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Anonymous | 2008/09/11 12:39 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | anon | 2008/09/11 01:17 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Anonymous | 2008/09/11 05:25 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/11 05:47 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | rwessel | 2008/09/11 06:01 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | anon | 2008/09/12 12:00 AM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Anonymous | 2008/09/12 08:52 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | anon | 2008/09/13 10:06 AM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Ungo | 2008/09/15 12:18 PM |
To SSD or not? One lady's perspective | David Kanter | 2008/09/22 01:12 AM |
To SSD or not? One lady's perspective | Howard Chu | 2008/09/22 04:02 AM |
To SSD or not? Real data.. | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/22 07:33 AM |
To SSD or not? Real data.. | Ungo | 2008/09/22 12:27 PM |
4K sectors | Wes Felter | 2008/09/22 06:03 PM |
4K sectors | Daniel | 2008/09/22 10:31 PM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/22 09:38 PM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | rwessel | 2008/09/22 10:09 PM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | Howard Chu | 2008/09/23 02:50 AM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | Daniel | 2008/09/22 10:40 PM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | rwessel | 2008/09/23 09:11 AM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | Daniel | 2008/09/23 12:10 PM |
HDD long sector size availability | Etienne Lehnart | 2008/09/23 05:32 AM |
HDD long sector size availability | rwessel | 2008/09/23 09:19 AM |
HDD long sector size availability | Etienne Lehnart | 2008/09/23 02:17 PM |
To SSD or not? Real data.. | Jouni Osmala | 2008/09/22 11:16 PM |
To SSD or not? One lady's perspective | Wes Felter | 2008/09/22 11:25 AM |
How should SSDs be engineered into systems? | Rob Thorpe | 2008/09/22 02:01 PM |
How should SSDs be engineered into systems? | Matt Craighead | 2008/09/23 06:59 PM |
How should SSDs be engineered into systems? | Matt Sayler | 2008/09/24 04:17 AM |
ATA/SCSIS, Write Flushes and Asych Filesystems | TruePath | 2009/01/25 04:44 AM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Michael S | 2008/09/12 04:58 AM |
overlapped erase and read | Michael S | 2008/09/12 04:59 AM |
overlapped erase and read | David W. Hess | 2008/09/12 09:56 AM |
overlapped erase and read | Anonymous | 2008/09/12 08:45 PM |
overlapped erase and read | Jouni Osmala | 2008/09/12 11:56 PM |
overlapped erase and read | Michael S | 2008/09/13 11:29 AM |
overlapped erase and read | Michael S | 2008/09/13 12:09 PM |
overlapped erase and read | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/13 02:05 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/11 05:31 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | EduardoS | 2008/09/08 02:07 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/08 02:30 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | EduardoS | 2008/09/08 04:01 PM |
SSD and RAID | Joe Chang | 2008/09/08 07:42 PM |
SSD and RAID | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/08 09:46 PM |
SSD and RAID | Aaron Spink | 2008/09/09 04:27 PM |
SSD and RAID | Groo | 2008/09/10 01:02 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/06 10:22 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/06 02:04 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/06 03:24 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2009/01/06 04:47 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | anonymous | 2009/01/06 05:17 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2009/01/06 05:58 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/07 12:35 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/06 05:45 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2009/01/06 06:09 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/06 07:47 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/07 12:26 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | anon | 2009/01/06 08:23 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/07 12:52 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | anon | 2009/01/07 02:34 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | IntelUser2000 | 2009/01/07 07:43 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/07 10:28 AM |
drop data filesystem semantic | Doug Siebert | 2009/01/09 12:21 PM |
FTL and FS | iz | 2009/01/09 07:49 PM |
FTL and FS | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/09 09:53 PM |
FTL and FS | iz | 2009/01/10 02:09 AM |
FTL and FS | Michael S | 2009/01/10 03:19 PM |
compiling large programs | iz | 2009/01/10 05:51 PM |
compiling large programs | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/10 07:58 PM |
compiling large programs | peter | 2009/01/11 05:30 AM |
compiling large programs | Andi Kleen | 2009/01/11 01:03 PM |
The File Abstraction | TruePath | 2009/01/25 06:45 AM |
The File Abstraction | Howard Chu | 2009/01/25 01:49 PM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/26 09:23 AM |
The File Abstraction | Michael S | 2009/01/26 01:39 PM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/26 02:31 PM |
The File Abstraction | Dean Kent | 2009/01/26 03:06 PM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/26 04:29 PM |
The File Abstraction | Mark Christiansen | 2009/01/27 09:24 AM |
The File Abstraction | Mark Christiansen | 2009/01/27 10:14 AM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/27 10:15 AM |
The File Abstraction | slacker | 2009/01/27 11:20 AM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/27 01:16 PM |
Attributes All The Way Down | Mark Christiansen | 2009/01/27 02:17 PM |
The File Abstraction | slacker | 2009/01/27 05:25 PM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/28 08:17 AM |
The File Abstraction: API thoughts | Carlie Coats | 2009/01/28 09:35 AM |
The File Abstraction | slacker | 2009/01/28 10:09 AM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/28 01:44 PM |
Programs already 'hide' their metadata in the bytestream, unbeknownst to users | anon | 2009/01/28 09:28 PM |
The File Abstraction | slacker | 2009/01/29 10:39 AM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/29 11:08 AM |
The File Abstraction | Dean Kent | 2009/01/29 11:49 AM |
The File Abstraction | Howard Chu | 2009/01/29 02:58 PM |
The File Abstraction | rwessel | 2009/01/29 04:23 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | slacker | 2009/01/29 03:05 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | stubar | 2009/01/29 04:49 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/29 05:15 PM |
Like Duh | anon | 2009/01/29 07:42 PM |
Like Duh | anon | 2009/01/29 09:15 PM |
Like Duh | anon | 2009/02/01 07:18 PM |
Double Duh. | Anonymous | 2009/02/01 10:58 PM |
Double Duh. | anon | 2009/02/02 02:08 AM |
Double Duh. | Anonymous | 2009/02/02 05:11 PM |
Double Duh. | anon | 2009/02/02 07:33 PM |
Like Duh | David Kanter | 2009/02/01 11:05 PM |
Like Duh | peter | 2009/02/01 11:55 PM |
Like Duh | anon | 2009/02/02 01:55 AM |
Xattrs, Solar power, regulation and politics | Rob Thorpe | 2009/02/02 04:36 AM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | hobold | 2009/02/02 06:14 AM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | rwessel | 2009/02/02 12:33 PM |
good summary | Michael S | 2009/02/03 02:41 AM |
good summary | Mark Christiansen | 2009/02/03 09:57 AM |
good summary | Howard Chu | 2009/02/03 10:21 AM |
good summary | Mark Christiansen | 2009/02/03 11:18 AM |
good summary | Howard Chu | 2009/02/03 12:00 PM |
good summary | Mark Christiansen | 2009/02/03 12:36 PM |
good summary | RagingDragon | 2009/02/03 10:39 PM |
good summary | rwessel | 2009/02/03 11:03 PM |
good summary | RagingDragon | 2009/02/03 11:46 PM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | slacker | 2009/02/04 05:06 PM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | Michael S | 2009/02/05 01:05 AM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | Ungo | 2009/02/05 01:15 PM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | slacker | 2009/02/05 02:19 PM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | Howard Chu | 2009/02/05 04:44 PM |
Like Duh | iz | 2009/01/30 02:03 AM |
EAs (security labels) hosed me badly | anon | 2009/01/30 09:48 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | RagingDragon | 2009/01/29 09:31 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anonymous | 2009/01/29 08:13 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/01/29 09:38 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | slacker | 2009/01/30 11:24 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anon | 2009/01/30 05:50 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Etienne Lehnart | 2009/01/30 12:22 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Rob Thorpe | 2009/01/30 12:39 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | slacker | 2009/01/30 01:16 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anon | 2009/01/30 06:03 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/01/30 11:22 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | rwessel | 2009/01/31 12:08 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anonymous | 2009/01/31 12:22 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | rwessel | 2009/01/31 12:56 AM |
Scaling | Dean Kent | 2009/01/31 09:04 AM |
Scaling | Rob Thorpe | 2009/02/02 02:39 AM |
Scaling | rwessel | 2009/02/02 11:41 AM |
Scaling | Howard Chu | 2009/02/02 12:30 PM |
Scaling | Dean Kent | 2009/02/02 02:27 PM |
Scaling | Rob Thorpe | 2009/02/03 05:08 AM |
Scaling | Dean Kent | 2009/02/03 07:38 AM |
Scaling | rwessel | 2009/02/03 02:34 PM |
Scaling | RagingDragon | 2009/02/03 10:46 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Matt Sayler | 2009/02/03 11:27 AM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Howard Chu | 2009/02/03 12:03 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Matt Sayler | 2009/02/03 12:17 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | RagingDragon | 2009/02/03 11:00 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Michael S | 2009/02/04 06:46 AM |
in defense of software that does not scale | RagingDragon | 2009/02/04 09:33 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Dean Kent | 2009/02/03 12:17 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Matt Sayler | 2009/02/03 12:24 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Vincent Diepeveen | 2009/02/04 10:43 AM |
in defense of software that does not scale | rwessel | 2009/02/03 02:44 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | anon | 2009/02/04 02:35 AM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Carlie Coats | 2009/02/04 05:24 AM |
Scaling with time vs. scaling from the beginning. | mpx | 2009/02/05 01:57 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Michael S | 2009/01/31 10:33 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anon | 2009/01/31 10:37 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | JasonB | 2009/01/31 08:11 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/01/31 11:43 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | JasonB | 2009/01/31 04:37 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/02/02 02:42 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/02/02 02:44 PM |
The File Abstraction | Rob Thorpe | 2009/01/27 11:20 AM |
The File Abstraction | Howard Chu | 2009/01/27 12:28 AM |
The File Abstraction | Michael S | 2009/01/27 03:00 AM |
The File Abstraction | Dean Kent | 2009/01/27 08:30 AM |
The File Abstraction | Andi Kleen | 2009/01/27 02:05 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michel | 2009/01/12 06:54 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/12 07:38 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2009/01/13 12:52 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Ungo | 2009/01/13 03:04 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Wes Felter | 2009/01/13 05:42 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | TruePath | 2009/01/25 05:05 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Ungo | 2008/08/21 12:54 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 01:20 PM |
MLC vs. SLC | Michael S | 2008/08/21 08:57 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/21 10:40 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 03:18 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Etienne Lehnart | 2008/08/20 04:38 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Tom W | 2008/08/19 10:10 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Jesper Frimann | 2008/08/20 12:28 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Tom W | 2008/08/20 03:42 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | David Kanter | 2008/08/21 01:13 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 06:54 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | asdf | 2008/08/22 01:18 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Dean Kent | 2008/08/22 07:54 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Jesper Frimann | 2008/08/22 09:48 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Tom W | 2008/08/24 01:06 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Michael S | 2008/08/24 04:19 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Dean Kent | 2008/08/24 09:30 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Paul | 2008/08/24 11:16 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Dean Kent | 2008/08/24 12:37 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Michael S | 2008/08/25 12:53 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | someone | 2008/08/22 10:19 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | aaron spink | 2008/08/23 02:56 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Michael S | 2008/08/23 09:58 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | someone | 2008/08/23 01:51 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | someone | 2008/08/23 01:55 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/23 04:52 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | anonymous | 2008/08/23 05:28 PM |
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