By: Mark Christiansen (aliasundercover.delete@this.nothereeither.com), January 27, 2009 2:17 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Linus Torvalds (torvalds@linux-foundation.org) on 1/27/09 wrote:
But then do the extended attributes need their own extended attributes?
I first thought about all this reading how Next handled things like the icons for an application. Their desktop software would look in directories and understood where to find the executable, icons and other associated resources in ordinary files. It all seemed very clever, to fit well in the Unix tradition.
One thing it doesn't do is automagically support old unaware applications which look to just open a file. Presented with a directory instead they would simply fail not knowing the protocol for which file in that directory is the default data. Or perhaps they messed with the meaning of file opens at the library level to give awareness to many old programs with minimal source changes, I never actually used a Next.
Naive programs could be served and arbitrary attachments to any file could be supported by turning every file optionally into both a file and a directory. Do an open and read/write to the file and you get a plain old byte stream. Open it as a directory and you get the listing of its member files and subdirectories. That listing may well be empty for a plain old file with no decoration. Inside the files and subdirectories are all just the same, each may or may not have a stream of bytes, each may or may not have named nodes farther down the tree. Copy would be a plain old recursive copy. At the top level one can understand the whole as one thing, internally complicated but just one thing none the less.
What would you do with it? It would make attaching other stuff to a file easy. A lot of the wish for extended attributes amounts to wanting to attach things to a file and have them stay with that file without affecting the other software which also uses the file.
There is always a snake and I can spot two right up front though there are probably more. One is using this for security purposes would introduce enormous complication as permission to mess with those security tags would necessarily be different from accessing and changing the ordinary data. The other snake is coordinating names, different independent efforts to attach useful data to files would need to not collide in their choice of file names. That is I think a much easier problem.
Why not just use the system as is with explicit directories and forgo this idea of every file is a directory and every directory is a file? Well, yes, that is what I expect will happen. Still, it would be nice to have a simple uniform way to attach information to files and have it stay stuck. People keep coming back to extended attributes because they want this. If for some reason you want attributes for the attributes for the attributes it all just works, no special cases.
Ideas are of course cheap and no doubt others have thought of this too.
But then do the extended attributes need their own extended attributes?
I first thought about all this reading how Next handled things like the icons for an application. Their desktop software would look in directories and understood where to find the executable, icons and other associated resources in ordinary files. It all seemed very clever, to fit well in the Unix tradition.
One thing it doesn't do is automagically support old unaware applications which look to just open a file. Presented with a directory instead they would simply fail not knowing the protocol for which file in that directory is the default data. Or perhaps they messed with the meaning of file opens at the library level to give awareness to many old programs with minimal source changes, I never actually used a Next.
Naive programs could be served and arbitrary attachments to any file could be supported by turning every file optionally into both a file and a directory. Do an open and read/write to the file and you get a plain old byte stream. Open it as a directory and you get the listing of its member files and subdirectories. That listing may well be empty for a plain old file with no decoration. Inside the files and subdirectories are all just the same, each may or may not have a stream of bytes, each may or may not have named nodes farther down the tree. Copy would be a plain old recursive copy. At the top level one can understand the whole as one thing, internally complicated but just one thing none the less.
What would you do with it? It would make attaching other stuff to a file easy. A lot of the wish for extended attributes amounts to wanting to attach things to a file and have them stay with that file without affecting the other software which also uses the file.
There is always a snake and I can spot two right up front though there are probably more. One is using this for security purposes would introduce enormous complication as permission to mess with those security tags would necessarily be different from accessing and changing the ordinary data. The other snake is coordinating names, different independent efforts to attach useful data to files would need to not collide in their choice of file names. That is I think a much easier problem.
Why not just use the system as is with explicit directories and forgo this idea of every file is a directory and every directory is a file? Well, yes, that is what I expect will happen. Still, it would be nice to have a simple uniform way to attach information to files and have it stay stuck. People keep coming back to extended attributes because they want this. If for some reason you want attributes for the attributes for the attributes it all just works, no special cases.
Ideas are of course cheap and no doubt others have thought of this too.
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