Anonymous (no@thanks.com) on 2/2/09 wrote:
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>anon (anon@anon.com) on 2/2/09 wrote:
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>>Anonymous (no@thanks.com) on 2/1/09 wrote:
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>>Suck it up, princess.
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>>Nobody addressed any of my questions, and this utterly content free post of yours doesn't help either.
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>>no need to come up with any real arguments if you say the jury is still out.
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>>Thanks anyway for the insults
>>and trying to dissuade me posting on this open forum. So ironic.
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>>Hello, McFly? Have you even read one or two posts in this thread??
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>>You want to introduce significant changes to make wide-spread use of a new concept,
>>which has significant disadvantages, and where existing alternatives apparently
>>exist without any real downside? Then yes, the burden is on you to explain why all this effort should be gone to.
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>>I personally feel that you're a crybaby who is out of your depth, and I find the
>>tone you have taken to be quite astonishing, given what it contributes to the thread.
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>Mmmm, quite an impressive amount of name call there, can I suggest a quick course in anger management?

You can suggest whatever you like. I don't care for you taking the high horse approach here. Anybody can read the thread for themselves and see you elevated it.

I'll suggest again that you grow some thicker skin. If somebody resorts to insults or "oh you offended me woe is me" drama when they are on the losing side of an argument or when they haven't even contributed anything to the argument, it looks pathetic and stupid, I agree. The odd jab or "you're an idiot" together with otherwise thoughtful content is pretty much par for the course I'm afraid.

>And then on to your complaining about content.. I notice that you carefully REMOVED
>the content I did presented, mentioning the arguments about xattr cross-machine
>portability was any different to long file names and filesystems links..

OK, I didn't really realise you'd presented that as "content". "Some people here have...". Doesn't sound like your own content.

If you can't see that xattrs are less portable than long file names or filesystem links which have been around for decades... You know directories aren't portable to some systems either. But portability isn't a black and white issue. Nor can you implement a reasonable unix clone without having long file names and links, so even if you disagree with those features, their presence is not an argument to add similar features with similar (or not) downsides.

>I will add to that the existing issues with respect to file ownership and mode
>- including linuxs existing 'special' handling of several file modes - differently
>from any unix standard. xattrs are NOT something new people WANT to add, they exist in many systems.

They are useful as a general area for storing kernel metadata. And they do already exist in Linux.

They are not particularly useful for application level stuff. The argument is to dissuade people from blindly thinking xattrs will solve their problems.

>And my last point is that your comprehension could do with some work, since that
>post you were replying to was my only contribution to the thread, while you seem
>to think I was part of the discussion. Either way - I personally dont care either
>way on xattrs - they do not cause me issues. My comments were targeted at your extreemely
>overbearing and childish demands made on the other people contributing.
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>Dont go thinking you can strong hand your way around forums to get your way - I dont expect to either.

Just end it with all this waffling then. Seriously, I didn't read any of the above because it is rubbish and a waste of my time. If you have hidden some "content" in there, please repost it by itself. I reply to you because you did raise a technical issue. In future I will reply but cut out and not quote the rest of the nonsense (so you might as well not write it in the first place).

All I care about is that nobody has been able to answer even a single one of the simple questions I ask.