By: Matt Sayler (sayler.delete@this.thewalrus.org), February 3, 2009 11:27 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Dean Kent (dkent@realworldtech.com) on 1/31/09 wrote:
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>As a writer of commercial software, this is one of the most common problems I see
>in any long-lived product. It seems that the average person (meaning, average developer/programmer)
>has trouble keeping in mind all of the various pieces of a design that will need
>to scale as the number of resources used or tracked increases.
As much as I hate software that doesn't scale, I probably hate premature optimization more. I'm going to speak in generalities here, but my guess is that most programmers who've been around the block a few times have experienced over-engineering or excessively "enterprisey" software.
Software that scales well is not always easy to write. Sure, there is low hanging fruit that you should look out for; and as experienced programmers, it's our job to catch as many of those as we can.
But does every bit of data need to be a database? Does every database need to be transactional? Does every program need to be multithreaded? Must we assume that UDP packets will frequently arrive out-of-order?? :) The answer is sometimes a resounding *no.* Sufficiently small programs can be made arguably, provably perfect; I have yet to see any truely perfect software I use every day. Needs change, times change, hardware changes, use cases change. And sometimes it's better to code for what you have now -- keeping in mind that you may have to go back and do it over later.
Lack of foresight is a beginner's curse. Premature optimization is the next stage. The truly enlightened programmer knows how to strike a balance. ;-)
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>As a writer of commercial software, this is one of the most common problems I see
>in any long-lived product. It seems that the average person (meaning, average developer/programmer)
>has trouble keeping in mind all of the various pieces of a design that will need
>to scale as the number of resources used or tracked increases.
As much as I hate software that doesn't scale, I probably hate premature optimization more. I'm going to speak in generalities here, but my guess is that most programmers who've been around the block a few times have experienced over-engineering or excessively "enterprisey" software.
Software that scales well is not always easy to write. Sure, there is low hanging fruit that you should look out for; and as experienced programmers, it's our job to catch as many of those as we can.
But does every bit of data need to be a database? Does every database need to be transactional? Does every program need to be multithreaded? Must we assume that UDP packets will frequently arrive out-of-order?? :) The answer is sometimes a resounding *no.* Sufficiently small programs can be made arguably, provably perfect; I have yet to see any truely perfect software I use every day. Needs change, times change, hardware changes, use cases change. And sometimes it's better to code for what you have now -- keeping in mind that you may have to go back and do it over later.
Lack of foresight is a beginner's curse. Premature optimization is the next stage. The truly enlightened programmer knows how to strike a balance. ;-)
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First Dunnington benchmark results | Aaron Apink | 2008/08/19 05:49 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Joe Chang | 2008/08/19 06:28 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/21 09:49 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 03:10 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/21 06:42 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 07:12 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/21 09:45 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 01:12 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 03:15 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Richard Cownie | 2008/08/20 02:59 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Anders Jensen | 2008/08/20 03:26 AM |
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First Dunnington benchmark results | Richard Cownie | 2008/08/20 11:04 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | slacker | 2008/08/20 12:35 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/20 07:54 PM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Richard Cownie | 2008/08/20 08:58 PM |
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SLC vs. MLC | Matt Sayler | 2008/08/21 06:25 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Richard Cownie | 2008/08/21 06:32 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/08/21 08:39 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/08/21 09:07 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/08/21 09:52 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/08/21 10:35 AM |
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SLC vs. MLC | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 01:29 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Dan Downs | 2008/08/21 11:33 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2008/08/21 12:45 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Dan Downs | 2008/08/22 08:21 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 01:34 PM |
SLC vs. MLC vs DRAM | pgerassi | 2008/08/21 12:24 PM |
SLC vs. MLC vs DRAM | David Kanter | 2008/08/22 01:31 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Groo | 2008/08/23 12:52 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/21 06:14 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/08/22 08:05 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/22 02:27 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | EduardoS | 2008/08/22 06:26 PM |
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SSD Controller differentiation | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/22 10:34 PM |
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SSD Controller differentiation (supercaps, cost...) | Doug Siebert | 2008/08/23 10:40 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/08/23 10:50 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/08 12:03 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Max | 2008/09/08 01:51 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Howard Chu | 2008/09/08 09:04 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Max | 2008/09/08 10:29 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Howard Chu | 2008/09/09 12:12 AM |
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RAM vs SSD? | Max | 2008/09/12 12:51 PM |
RAM vs SSD? | EduardoS | 2008/09/12 04:27 PM |
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Disk cache snapshotting | Howard Chu | 2008/09/14 09:58 PM |
Disk cache snapshotting | Max | 2008/09/15 12:50 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/09 07:43 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Howard Chu | 2008/09/09 09:42 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/09 10:39 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 12:29 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | anon | 2008/09/10 02:51 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 03:09 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Max | 2008/09/10 04:48 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 05:52 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Max | 2008/09/10 06:28 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Matt Sayler | 2008/09/10 06:21 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 09:17 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | anon | 2008/09/10 06:29 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 09:23 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Matt Sayler | 2008/09/10 10:45 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/10 07:25 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michael S | 2008/09/10 09:54 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/10 10:31 AM |
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Physical vs effective write latency | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/11 09:06 AM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/11 09:48 AM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/11 11:39 AM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Mark Roulo | 2008/09/11 12:18 PM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/11 05:59 PM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/11 07:16 PM |
Physical vs effective write latency | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/11 10:28 PM |
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SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | anon | 2008/09/11 01:17 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Anonymous | 2008/09/11 05:25 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/11 05:47 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | rwessel | 2008/09/11 06:01 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | anon | 2008/09/12 12:00 AM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Anonymous | 2008/09/12 08:52 PM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | anon | 2008/09/13 10:06 AM |
SLC vs. MLC - the trick to latency | Ungo | 2008/09/15 12:18 PM |
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To SSD or not? One lady's perspective | Howard Chu | 2008/09/22 04:02 AM |
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To SSD or not? Real data.. | Ungo | 2008/09/22 12:27 PM |
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Reasons for >512 byte sectors | rwessel | 2008/09/22 10:09 PM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | Howard Chu | 2008/09/23 02:50 AM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | Daniel | 2008/09/22 10:40 PM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | rwessel | 2008/09/23 09:11 AM |
Reasons for >512 byte sectors | Daniel | 2008/09/23 12:10 PM |
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HDD long sector size availability | rwessel | 2008/09/23 09:19 AM |
HDD long sector size availability | Etienne Lehnart | 2008/09/23 02:17 PM |
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To SSD or not? One lady's perspective | Wes Felter | 2008/09/22 11:25 AM |
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overlapped erase and read | David W. Hess | 2008/09/12 09:56 AM |
overlapped erase and read | Anonymous | 2008/09/12 08:45 PM |
overlapped erase and read | Jouni Osmala | 2008/09/12 11:56 PM |
overlapped erase and read | Michael S | 2008/09/13 11:29 AM |
overlapped erase and read | Michael S | 2008/09/13 12:09 PM |
overlapped erase and read | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/13 02:05 PM |
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SLC vs. MLC | EduardoS | 2008/09/08 02:07 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2008/09/08 02:30 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | EduardoS | 2008/09/08 04:01 PM |
SSD and RAID | Joe Chang | 2008/09/08 07:42 PM |
SSD and RAID | Doug Siebert | 2008/09/08 09:46 PM |
SSD and RAID | Aaron Spink | 2008/09/09 04:27 PM |
SSD and RAID | Groo | 2008/09/10 01:02 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/06 10:22 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/06 02:04 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/06 03:24 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2009/01/06 04:47 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | anonymous | 2009/01/06 05:17 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2009/01/06 05:58 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/07 12:35 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/06 05:45 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2009/01/06 06:09 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/06 07:47 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/07 12:26 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | anon | 2009/01/06 08:23 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Joern Engel | 2009/01/07 12:52 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | anon | 2009/01/07 02:34 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | IntelUser2000 | 2009/01/07 07:43 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/07 10:28 AM |
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FTL and FS | iz | 2009/01/09 07:49 PM |
FTL and FS | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/09 09:53 PM |
FTL and FS | iz | 2009/01/10 02:09 AM |
FTL and FS | Michael S | 2009/01/10 03:19 PM |
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compiling large programs | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/10 07:58 PM |
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compiling large programs | Andi Kleen | 2009/01/11 01:03 PM |
The File Abstraction | TruePath | 2009/01/25 06:45 AM |
The File Abstraction | Howard Chu | 2009/01/25 01:49 PM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/26 09:23 AM |
The File Abstraction | Michael S | 2009/01/26 01:39 PM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/26 02:31 PM |
The File Abstraction | Dean Kent | 2009/01/26 03:06 PM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/26 04:29 PM |
The File Abstraction | Mark Christiansen | 2009/01/27 09:24 AM |
The File Abstraction | Mark Christiansen | 2009/01/27 10:14 AM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/27 10:15 AM |
The File Abstraction | slacker | 2009/01/27 11:20 AM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/27 01:16 PM |
Attributes All The Way Down | Mark Christiansen | 2009/01/27 02:17 PM |
The File Abstraction | slacker | 2009/01/27 05:25 PM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/28 08:17 AM |
The File Abstraction: API thoughts | Carlie Coats | 2009/01/28 09:35 AM |
The File Abstraction | slacker | 2009/01/28 10:09 AM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/28 01:44 PM |
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The File Abstraction | slacker | 2009/01/29 10:39 AM |
The File Abstraction | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/29 11:08 AM |
The File Abstraction | Dean Kent | 2009/01/29 11:49 AM |
The File Abstraction | Howard Chu | 2009/01/29 02:58 PM |
The File Abstraction | rwessel | 2009/01/29 04:23 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | slacker | 2009/01/29 03:05 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | stubar | 2009/01/29 04:49 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/29 05:15 PM |
Like Duh | anon | 2009/01/29 07:42 PM |
Like Duh | anon | 2009/01/29 09:15 PM |
Like Duh | anon | 2009/02/01 07:18 PM |
Double Duh. | Anonymous | 2009/02/01 10:58 PM |
Double Duh. | anon | 2009/02/02 02:08 AM |
Double Duh. | Anonymous | 2009/02/02 05:11 PM |
Double Duh. | anon | 2009/02/02 07:33 PM |
Like Duh | David Kanter | 2009/02/01 11:05 PM |
Like Duh | peter | 2009/02/01 11:55 PM |
Like Duh | anon | 2009/02/02 01:55 AM |
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Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | hobold | 2009/02/02 06:14 AM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | rwessel | 2009/02/02 12:33 PM |
good summary | Michael S | 2009/02/03 02:41 AM |
good summary | Mark Christiansen | 2009/02/03 09:57 AM |
good summary | Howard Chu | 2009/02/03 10:21 AM |
good summary | Mark Christiansen | 2009/02/03 11:18 AM |
good summary | Howard Chu | 2009/02/03 12:00 PM |
good summary | Mark Christiansen | 2009/02/03 12:36 PM |
good summary | RagingDragon | 2009/02/03 10:39 PM |
good summary | rwessel | 2009/02/03 11:03 PM |
good summary | RagingDragon | 2009/02/03 11:46 PM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | slacker | 2009/02/04 05:06 PM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | Michael S | 2009/02/05 01:05 AM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | Ungo | 2009/02/05 01:15 PM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | slacker | 2009/02/05 02:19 PM |
Terminology seems too fuzzy to me | Howard Chu | 2009/02/05 04:44 PM |
Like Duh | iz | 2009/01/30 02:03 AM |
EAs (security labels) hosed me badly | anon | 2009/01/30 09:48 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | RagingDragon | 2009/01/29 09:31 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anonymous | 2009/01/29 08:13 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/01/29 09:38 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | slacker | 2009/01/30 11:24 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anon | 2009/01/30 05:50 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Etienne Lehnart | 2009/01/30 12:22 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Rob Thorpe | 2009/01/30 12:39 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | slacker | 2009/01/30 01:16 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anon | 2009/01/30 06:03 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/01/30 11:22 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | rwessel | 2009/01/31 12:08 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anonymous | 2009/01/31 12:22 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | rwessel | 2009/01/31 12:56 AM |
Scaling | Dean Kent | 2009/01/31 09:04 AM |
Scaling | Rob Thorpe | 2009/02/02 02:39 AM |
Scaling | rwessel | 2009/02/02 11:41 AM |
Scaling | Howard Chu | 2009/02/02 12:30 PM |
Scaling | Dean Kent | 2009/02/02 02:27 PM |
Scaling | Rob Thorpe | 2009/02/03 05:08 AM |
Scaling | Dean Kent | 2009/02/03 07:38 AM |
Scaling | rwessel | 2009/02/03 02:34 PM |
Scaling | RagingDragon | 2009/02/03 10:46 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Matt Sayler | 2009/02/03 11:27 AM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Howard Chu | 2009/02/03 12:03 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Matt Sayler | 2009/02/03 12:17 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | RagingDragon | 2009/02/03 11:00 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Michael S | 2009/02/04 06:46 AM |
in defense of software that does not scale | RagingDragon | 2009/02/04 09:33 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Dean Kent | 2009/02/03 12:17 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Matt Sayler | 2009/02/03 12:24 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Vincent Diepeveen | 2009/02/04 10:43 AM |
in defense of software that does not scale | rwessel | 2009/02/03 02:44 PM |
in defense of software that does not scale | anon | 2009/02/04 02:35 AM |
in defense of software that does not scale | Carlie Coats | 2009/02/04 05:24 AM |
Scaling with time vs. scaling from the beginning. | mpx | 2009/02/05 01:57 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Michael S | 2009/01/31 10:33 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | anon | 2009/01/31 10:37 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | JasonB | 2009/01/31 08:11 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/01/31 11:43 AM |
Extended Attributes in Action | JasonB | 2009/01/31 04:37 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/02/02 02:42 PM |
Extended Attributes in Action | Howard Chu | 2009/02/02 02:44 PM |
The File Abstraction | Rob Thorpe | 2009/01/27 11:20 AM |
The File Abstraction | Howard Chu | 2009/01/27 12:28 AM |
The File Abstraction | Michael S | 2009/01/27 03:00 AM |
The File Abstraction | Dean Kent | 2009/01/27 08:30 AM |
The File Abstraction | Andi Kleen | 2009/01/27 02:05 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Michel | 2009/01/12 06:54 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Linus Torvalds | 2009/01/12 07:38 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | rwessel | 2009/01/13 12:52 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Ungo | 2009/01/13 03:04 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Wes Felter | 2009/01/13 05:42 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | TruePath | 2009/01/25 05:05 AM |
SLC vs. MLC | Ungo | 2008/08/21 12:54 PM |
SLC vs. MLC | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 01:20 PM |
MLC vs. SLC | Michael S | 2008/08/21 08:57 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | rwessel | 2008/08/21 10:40 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/21 03:18 AM |
First Dunnington benchmark results | Etienne Lehnart | 2008/08/20 04:38 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Tom W | 2008/08/19 10:10 PM |
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Will x86 dominate big iron? | Tom W | 2008/08/20 03:42 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | David Kanter | 2008/08/21 01:13 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Joe Chang | 2008/08/21 06:54 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | asdf | 2008/08/22 01:18 PM |
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Will x86 dominate big iron? | Jesper Frimann | 2008/08/22 09:48 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Tom W | 2008/08/24 01:06 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Michael S | 2008/08/24 04:19 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Dean Kent | 2008/08/24 09:30 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Paul | 2008/08/24 11:16 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Dean Kent | 2008/08/24 12:37 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Michael S | 2008/08/25 12:53 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | someone | 2008/08/22 10:19 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | aaron spink | 2008/08/23 02:56 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Michael S | 2008/08/23 09:58 AM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | someone | 2008/08/23 01:51 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | someone | 2008/08/23 01:55 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/23 04:52 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | anonymous | 2008/08/23 05:28 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Dean Kent | 2008/08/23 06:12 PM |
Off road and topic | EduardoS | 2008/08/23 06:28 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | someone | 2008/08/23 06:26 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | Dean Kent | 2008/08/23 09:40 PM |
Will x86 dominate big iron? | anonymous | 2008/08/24 01:46 AM |
Off road and topic | David W. Hess | 2008/08/24 03:24 AM |
Off road and topic | Aaron Spink | 2008/08/24 04:14 AM |
Beckton vs. Dunnington | Mr. Camel | 2008/08/22 06:30 AM |
Beckton vs. Dunnington | jokerman | 2008/08/22 12:12 PM |
Beckton vs. Dunnington | Mr. Camel | 2009/05/29 10:16 AM |