Is K12 still alive?

By: Heikki Kultala (heikki.kultala.delete@this.tut.fi),
Room: Moderated Discussions
Has the K12 project been cancelled or have just all chips using K12 been delayed when AMD has been concentrating on getting summit ridge and raven ridge out?

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Is K12 still alive?Heikki Kultala
  It never made senseSomeone
    It never made sensejuanrga
      It never made senseMichael S
      It never made senseanon.1
        It never made sensewumpus
          It never made senseanon.1
            It never made sensewumpus
              It never made senseanon.1
                It never made senseDavid Kanter
                  It never made sensejuanrga
                    It never made sensebakaneko
                  It never made senseanon.1
                Hierofalcon ?Michael S
                  Hierofalcon ?anyone
        It never made sensejuanrga
          It never made senseanon.1
            It never made sensejuanrga
              It never made senseanon.1
                It never made sensejuanrga
                  It never made senseanon.1
                    It never made sensejuanrga
                      It never made senseanon.1
                        It never made sensejuanrga
                          It never made senseanon.1
                            It never made senseBrett
                              It never made sensewumpus
                                It never made senseMichael S
                            It never made senseanon.1
                              It never made senseBrett
                                It never made senseanon.1
                                  It never made senseBrett
                                    It never made senseanon.1
                                    It never made senseJouni Osmala
                                      It never made senseBrett
                                        It never made senseJouni Osmala
                                          It never made senseMichael S
                                      It never made senseMaynard Handley
                                        It never made senseAndreas
                                          It never made senseMaynard Handley
                                            It never made senseAndreas
                              It never made sensedmcq
                                It never made senseanon.1
                                  It never made senseanon.1
                                    It never made sensedmcq
                                    It never made senseblue
                                      It never made senseblue
                                  It never made senseMaynard Handley
                                  To all! Snip your citations. It's annoying as hell asit is!!! (NT)gallier2
                              Bogus ICC comparisonWilco
                                Bogus ICC comparisonanon.1
                                  Bogus ICC comparisonMichael S
                                  Bogus ICC comparisonDavid Kanter
                                    Bogus ICC comparisonAnne O'Nonymous
                                      Bogus ICC comparisonslacker
                                        Bogus ICC comparisonAnne O'Nymous
                                    Bogus ICC comparisondmcq
                                      Bogus ICC comparisonanon.1
                                        Bogus ICC comparisonWilco
                                    Bogus ICC comparisonanon.1
                                      Bogus ICC comparisonWilco
                                Just look at the 403.gcc resultsDoug S
                                  Just look at the 403.gcc resultsMaynard Handley
                                    Just look at the 403.gcc resultsDoug S
                                      Just look at the 403.gcc resultsdmcq
                            It never made sensejuanrga
                              It never made senseanon.1
                                It never made senseanon.1
                              It never made senseAnne O'Nonymous
                required PRF sizeHeikki Kultala
                  required PRF sizeWilco
                    required PRF sizeMichael S
                      required PRF sizeanon.1
                        required PRF sizeWilco
                          required PRF sizeanon.1
                            required PRF sizeWilco
                              required PRF sizeMichael S
                              required PRF sizeanon.1
                                required PRF sizeRicardo B
                                  required PRF sizeanon.1
                                    Thanks! (NT)Ricardo B
                                    required PRF sizeJouni Osmala
                                      required PRF sizeanon.1
                                  required PRF sizeMaynard Handley
                              required PRF sizeanon.1
                    required PRF sizeLinus B Torvalds
                      required PRF sizeMichael S
                        required PRF sizeLinus B Torvalds
                          required PRF sizeJouni Osmala
                      Load-op usageWilco
                        Load-op usageanon5
                          Load-op usageWilco
                            Load-op usageMichael S
                              Load-op usageWilco
                                could it be C vs C++? (NT)Michael S
                                Load-op usageGabriele Svelto
                                  Load-op usageGian-Carlo Pascutto
                                    Use perf top?Travis
                                      Use perf top?Wilco
                                        Use perf top?Travis
                                          Use perf top?Seni
                                            Use perf top?Wilco
                                              Compiled on Skylake? (NT)Michael S
                                              Use perf top?Gabriele Svelto
                                                Use perf top?octoploid
                                                  Use perf top?Gabriele Svelto
                                                    Use perf top?octoploid
                                                      Use perf top?Gabriele Svelto
                                                        Use perf top?octoploid
                                                          Use perf top?Gian-Carlo Pascutto
                                                            Use perf top?octoploid
                                                              Use perf top?Gian-Carlo Pascutto
                                                                Use perf top?octoploid
                                                                  Use perf top?Gian-Carlo Pascutto
                                                                    Use perf top?octoploid
                                                                      Use perf top?rwessel
                                                                        Use perf top?octoploid
                                                                          Use perf top?Megol
                                                                            Use perf top?octoploid
                                                                              Use perf top?Gian-Carlo Pascutto
                                                                                Use perf top?octoploid
                                                                              Use perf top?Megol
                                          Use perf top?Wilco
                                            Use perf top?Travis
                                              Use perf top?Wilco
                                                Use perf top?Travis
                            Load-op usageMichael S
                              Load-op usageWilco
                                Load-op usageLinus B Torvalds
                                  Load-op usageLinus B Torvalds
                        Load-op usageanon.1
                          Load-op usageMichael S
                            Load-op usageanon.1
                              Load-op usageanon.1
                              Load-op usageMichael S
                                Load-op usageanon.1
                                  Load-op usageMichael S
                                    Load-op usageanon.1
                                      Load-op usageMichael S
                        Load-op usageLinus B Torvalds
                          Load-op usageLinus B Torvalds
                          Load-op usage_Arthur
                            Load-op usageMichael S
                            Load-op usageLinus B Torvalds
                              Load-op usageoctoploid
                                Load-op usageLinus B Torvalds
                  required PRF sizeanon.1
                    required PRF sizeslacker
                      required PRF sizeanon.1
                        required PRF sizeslacker
                          Fixed linkslacker
                          required PRF sizeanon.1
          It never made senseanon.1
            It never made senseanon.1
              It never made sensenobody in particular
              It never made senseGabriele Svelto
                It never made senseanon.1
                It never made senseAaron Spink
              It never made senseDavid Hess
                It never made senseBrett
                It never made senseanon.1
                  It never made senseNiels JΓΈrgen Kruse
                    It never made senseanon.1
                      It never made senseNiels JΓΈrgen Kruse
                    It never made senseMaynard Handley
                      It never made senseNiels JΓΈrgen Kruse
                  It never made sensejuanrga
                    It never made sensenobody in particular
                      It never made sensejuanrga
                        It never made sensenobody in particular
                          It never made sensejuanrga
                            You're discussing two dead-in-the-water architecturesdefault
                              You're discussing two dead-in-the-water architecturesblue
                              You're discussing two dead-in-the-water architecturesjuanrga
                    It never made senseanon.1
                      It never made senseMichael S
                        It never made senseanon.1
                      It never made sensejuanrga
                        It never made sensenobody in particular
                        It never made senseMichael S
                        It never made senseanon.1
                  It never made senseDavid Hess
                    It never made senseBrett
                      It never made senseMichael S
                        It never made senseAnon
                          It never made senseMichael S
                            It never made sensehobel
                      It never made senseDavid Hess
                    It never made sensewumpus
                      It never made senseDavid Hess
            It never made sensejuanrga
              It never made senseAaron Spink
    It never made senseHeikki Kultala
      It never made senseAaron Spink
    It never made senseWes Felter
      It never made senseanon.1
  Is K12 still alive?juanrga
    Is K12 still alive?Heikki Kultala
      Is K12 still alive?who me?
        Is K12 still alive?juanrga
        Is K12 still alive?dmcq
          Is K12 still alive?Foo_
            Is K12 still alive?David Kanter
              Is K12 still alive?Linus B Torvalds
                Is K12 still alive?Michael_S
                Is K12 still alive?David Kanter
                  Is K12 still alive?Linus B Torvalds
                    Is K12 still alive?octoploid
                      slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetEric Bron
                        slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetLinus B Torvalds
                          slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetEric Bron
                            slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetLinus B Torvalds
                              slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetEric Bron
                                KNL code generator vs 2014Michael S
                                  KNL code generator vs 2014Eric Bron
                                  KNL code generator vs 2014anon.512
                                    KNL code generator vs 2014Michael S
                                  food for thoughtEric Bron
                                    icc 17 on godbolt disagreeMichael S
                                      Sorry, I posted SKX code twiceMichael S
                                         stall 2 - are KNL VPUs really OoO?Michael S
                                      which version of icc 17 ? (NT)Eric Bron
                                        17.0.0Michael S
                                          17.0.0Eric Bron
                                          17.0.0Eric Bron
                                            17.0.0Michael S
                                              17.0.0Eric Bron
                                                17.0.0Michael S
                                                  strange 256-bit code with icc v7.0.4Eric Bron
                                              17.0.0Eric Bron
                                          fixed exampleEric Bron
                              slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetTravis
                                correction: has NOT been the caseTravis
                              slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetanon
                                slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetTravis
                                  slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetanon
                                    slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetTravis
                            slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetGabriele Svelto
                          slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetDoug S
                            slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetLinus B Torvalds
                              Dedicated mem* instructionsDoug S
                                Dedicated mem* instructionsLinus Torvalds
                                  Dedicated mem* instructionsLinus Torvalds
                                    Dedicated mem* instructionsanon
                                      Dedicated mem* instructionsLinus Torvalds
                                        Should mem copy/fill/move be an instruction or a coprocessor with asychronous instructions? (NT)TEMLIB
                                          asynchronous co-processors are evil (NT)Michael S
                                          Should mem copy/fill/move be an instruction or a coprocessor with asychronous instructions?David Hess
                                          Should mem copy/fill/move be an instruction or a coprocessor with asychronous instructions?Travis
                                            Should mem copy/fill/move be an instruction or a coprocessor with asychronous instructions?TEMLIB
                                        Dedicated mem* instructionsanon
                                        AVX-512 and XOPYuhong Bao
                                          128-bit vs 256-bit vectors in cryptoYuhong Bao
                                    Dedicated mem* instructionsDoug S
                                      Dedicated mem* instructionsMichael S
                                        Dedicated mem* instructionsDoug S
                                          Dedicated mem* instructionsLinus Torvalds
                                            Dedicated mem* instructionsTravis
                                              Dedicated mem* instructionsLinus Torvalds
                                  Dedicated mem* instructionsGabriele Svelto
                                Immediate lengths for mem* instructionsPaul A. Clayton
                              slow AVX-512 memcpy/memsetTravis
                                ucode branch predictionDavid Kanter
                          Then why use even AVX2 for memcpy?Mark Roulo
                            Then why use even AVX2 for memcpy?Linus B Torvalds
                              Danke (NT).Mark Roulo
                            It's all about the length of the memcpy.Heikki Kultala
                              It's all about the length of the memcpy.Heikki Kultala
                              It's all about the length of the memcpy.Yoav
                              It's all about the length of the memcpy.Michael S
                              It's all about the length of the memcpy.Megol
                              It's all about the length of the memcpy.Gabriele Svelto
                                It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                  It's all about the length of the memcpy.Gabriele Svelto
                                    It's all about the length of the memcpy.octoploid
                                      Forgot , but you get the idea (NT)octoploid
                                        Forgot to add a pre tag but you get the idea (NT)octoploid
                                      It's all about the length of the memcpy.Gabriele Svelto
                                        It's all about the length of the memcpy.Wilco
                                          It's all about the length of the memcpy.Gabriele Svelto
                                            It's all about the length of the memcpy.Wilco
                                              "manual memcpy" and modern compilersHeikki Kultala
                                                "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                  "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                    "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                      "manual memcpy" and modern compilersJason Creighton
                                                        "manual memcpy" and modern compilersWilco
                                                      "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                        "manual memcpy" and modern compilersWilco
                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersoctoploid
                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersWilco
                                                              "manual memcpy" and modern compilersoctoploid
                                                                "manual memcpy" and modern compilersWilco
                                                                "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                  "manual memcpy" and modern compilersJouni Osmala
                                                                    "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                                      "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                        "manual memcpy" and modern compilersoctoploid
                                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersoctoploid
                                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                              "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersoctoploid
                                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersGiGNiC
                                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                                              "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                                "manual memcpy" and modern compilersgiovanni deretta
                                                                                  "manual memcpy" and modern compilersDavid Kanter
                                                                                  "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                                    "manual memcpy" and modern compilersDavid Kanter
                                                                                      memory renamingTravis
                                                                                        memory renaminganon.1
                                                                                          memory renaminganon.1
                                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersoctoploid
                                                                              "manual memcpy" and modern compilersoctoploid
                                                                                "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                                  "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                                                    "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                                                      "manual memcpy" and modern compilersMichael S
                                                                        "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                                      "manual memcpy" and modern compilersYuhong Bao
                                                                        "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersYuhong Bao
                                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                                              "manual memcpy" and modern compilersgiovanni deretta
                                                                                "manual memcpy" and modern compilersLinus Torvalds
                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersBrett
                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersWilco
                                                              "manual memcpy" and modern compilersBrett
                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                      "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                        "manual memcpy" and modern compilersWilco
                                                          "manual memcpy" and modern compilersTravis
                                                            "manual memcpy" and modern compilersWilco
                                    It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                      It's all about the length of the memcpy.Michael S
                                        It's all about the length of the memcpy.Linus Torvalds
                                      It's all about the length of the memcpy.Linus Torvalds
                                        It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                          It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                          It's all about the length of the memcpy.Brett
                                            It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                          It's all about the length of the memcpy.Linus Torvalds
                                            big.LITTLE ???Michael S
                                              big.LITTLE ???Linus Torvalds
                                                may be, Mongoose core ?Michael S
                                                big.LITTLE ???Travis
                                                  big.LITTLE ???Linus Torvalds
                                                    big.LITTLE ???Travis
                                                    In *theory* this is fixable with better benchmarks ...Mark Roulo
                                                      In *theory* this is fixable with better benchmarks ...Linus Torvalds
                                            It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                              NT stores are an issueHeikki Kultala
                                                NT stores are an issueTravis
                                                  NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)octoploid
                                                    NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)octoploid
                                                      Bogus extra newline when using code,preoctoploid
                                                        Bogus extra newline when using code,preMichael S
                                                    NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)Travis
                                                      NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)Travis
                                                      NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)Michael S
                                                        NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)Travis
                                                    NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)Travis
                                                      NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)octoploid
                                                        NT stores are an issue (Ryzen result)Travis
                                              It's all about the length of the memcpy.Doug S
                                      It's all about the length of the memcpy.Gabriele Svelto
                                        It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                          It's all about the length of the memcpy.Seni
                                            It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                              It's all about the length of the memcpy.Gabriele Svelto
                                                It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                                  It's all about the length of the memcpy.Seni
                                                    It's all about the length of the memcpy.Travis
                                                      It's all about the length of the memcpy.Brett
                                                  Real code, real data from a real workloadGabriele Svelto
                                                    Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                      Real code, real data from a real workloadGabriele Svelto
                                                        Real code, real data from a real workloadgallier2
                                                        Real code, real data from a real workloadSymmetry
                                                          Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                        Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                          Real code, real data from a real workloadMichael S
                                                            Real code, real data from a real workloadWilco
                                                              fixed indeedMichael S
                                                          Real code, real data from a real workloadGabriele Svelto
                                                            Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                              Real code, real data from a real workloadmeh
                                                                Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                            Real code, real data from a real workloadSeni
                                                              Real code, real data from a real workloadBrendan
                                                                Real code, real data from a real workloadSeni
                                                                Real code, real data from a real workloadrwessel
                                                                  Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                                Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                          Real code, real data from a real workloadRicardo B
                                                            Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                              correctionTravis
                                                              Real code, real data from a real workloadRicardo B
                                                                Real code, real data from a real workloadTravis
                                                            Real code, real data from a real workloadEtienne
                                It's all about the length of the memcpy.Megol
                              rep movsb is still slowWilco
                                4K is not small... (NT)iz
                                  Random copies are < 256 bytes (NT)Wilco
                                rep movsb is still slowBrendan
                                  rep movsb is still slowTravis
                            Then why use even AVX2 for memcpy?Eric Bron
                    Is K12 still alive?Ronald Maas
                      Is K12 still alive?dmcq
                    Wide registersLaurent
                      It's called Amdahl's law (NT)Gabriele Svelto
                      Wide registersMichael S
                        Wide registersEric Bron
                          Ivan Godard (NT)Michael S
                        Wide registersLaurent
            Is K12 still alive?dmcq
              Is K12 still alive?juanrga
              the whole post makes no sense at all (NT)Michael S
                did you expect different?blue
                  did you expect different?dmcq
                    did you expect juanrga post to make sense? (NT) (clarified?)blue
                      did you follow the discussion?Michael S
                        did you follow the discussion?dmcq
                          did you follow the discussion?juanrga
                          did you follow the discussion?anon.1
                            did you follow the discussion?dmcq