Quark X1000

By: someone (someone.delete@this.somewhere.com),
Room: Moderated Discussions
EduardoS (no.delete@this.spam.com) on September 11, 2013 8:24 am wrote:
> someone (someone.delete@this.somewhere.com) on September 11, 2013 7:38 am wrote:
> > timcaffrey (timcaffrey.delete@this.aol.com) on September 11, 2013 7:26 am wrote:
> > > Does anybody remember the Intel 376? A 386sx derivative that
> > > 1) Didn't support segments.
> > > 2) Booted directly into 32 bit mode.
> > > 3) Didn't support 16 applications.
> > >
> > > My guess is Quark is something like this. No FP (x87/SSE/AVX), perhaps removal of
> > > BCD/ASCII math instructions.
> >
> > I doubt they would drop FP completely. One could implement a very low complexity
> > adder, low performance FPU for x87/SSE that would easily speed FP up >10X better
> > than a software based solution. Going with an SSE only basic FPU would be desirable
> > but IIRC is problematic on the software side.
> >
> > IMO it is more likely they would drop the ancient x86 16 bit modes.
>
> Stop please, why in hell Intel is going to release a x86-incompatible x86 embbedded solution?
>
> A full x86 compatible is far more flexible, just drop in whatever software already exists,
> Intel itself would be able to sell as low end CPU for phones, but x86 incompatible means
> a very restrcited market, as if they released a CPU with a completly new ISA.


Any x86 compiler I am aware of is perfectly capable of generating vanilla 32 bit
code that runs on a 486 or P5. That is about as compatible as it gets.

The difference in ISA complexity between a P5 and all that the latest Core or Atom
can execute is a huge factor for a synthesizable CPU for low end embedded control.
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Quartz X1000Robert David Graham
  QUARK X1000Robert David Graham
  Quartz X1000anon
  Quark X1000timcaffrey
    Quark X1000someone
      Quark X1000EduardoS
        Quark X1000someone
          80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now? (NT)Michael S
            80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?timcaffrey
              80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?EduardoS
                80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?Ricardo B
              80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?Dan Fay
                80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?bakaneko
                  80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?Dan Fay
                    80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?Michael S
                    80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?bakaneko
                      80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?EduardoS
                        80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?bakaneko
                          80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?EduardoS
                            80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?bakaneko
                        80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?Dan Fay
                      80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?Ricardo B
                        80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?anon
                        1-2 KB cache? Are you sure? (NT)Michael S
                          Not 100%, but I've never came across a M4 based chip without a bit of cache. (NT)Ricardo B
                            I never encountered M4 based MCU with CPU cacheMichael S
                              I never encountered M4 based MCU with CPU cacheWilco
                      80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?anon
                        80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?Exophase
                        80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?bakaneko
                          80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?anon
                            80376 didn't sell 20 years ago. What's different now?bakaneko
        Quark X1000Doug S
          Quark X1000Megol
            Quark X1000timcaffrey
              Modern segmentationAndi Kleen
  Do SSDs really have multi-core ARMs in them?Rob Thorpe
    rotating disks doanon
    Do SSDs really have multi-core ARMs in them?none
    why answered.Jouni Osmala
    Interesting AnswersRob Thorpe
  Quartz X1000mas
    Quartz X1000Exophase
      Quartz X1000David Kanter
        Why this instead of ARM?Mark Roulo
          Why this instead of ARM?Aaron
            Why this instead of ARM?none
        Quartz X1000Exophase
          *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.Michael S
            Windows XP seems iffy given the probable performance of this thing ...Mark Roulo
              Windows XP seems iffy given the probable performance of this thing ...Michael S
              Windows XP seems iffy given the probable performance of this thing ...EduardoS
              Windows XP seems iffy given the probable performance of this thing ...Maynard Handley
                Windows XP seems iffy given the probable performance of this thing ...Doug S
                Windows XP seems iffy given the probable performance of this thing ...mas
                  Windows XP seems iffy given the probable performance of this thing ...EduardoS
                  Windows XP seems iffy given the probable performance of this thing ...J.Random
            *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.Exophase
              *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.Dan Fay
              *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.EduardoS
              *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.Michael S
                *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.Dan Fay
                  *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.none
                *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.none
                  *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.Michael S
                *not* intended to compete vs Cortex-M and TI C28.Marketing
        Quartz X1000Megol
          486 shrink proves Intel can port and fab others chipsBrett
            I don't think so ... plus, who cares?Mark Roulo
          Quartz X1000Ronald Maas
            Quark X1000David W
              Quark X1000David Hess
                Quark X1000Michael S
                  Quark X1000Exophase
                    Quark X1000Michael S
                      Quark X1000David Hess
                      Quark X1000Exophase
                  Quark X1000David Hess
      Quartz X1000EduardoS
        Quartz X1000Michael S
          Quartz X1000Linus Torvalds
            Quartz X1000David Hess
              Quartz X1000Michael S
                Quartz X1000David Hess
                  Quartz X1000Linus Torvalds
                    Quartz X1000EduardoS
                      Quartz X1000David Hess
                    Quartz X1000David Hess
                      Quartz X1000Exophase
                        Quartz X1000Michael S
                Quartz X1000rjs
                  Quartz X1000anon
                    Quartz X1000rjs
                  Quartz X1000David Hess
                    Quartz X1000Ricardo B
                      Quartz X1000Michael S
                        Quartz X1000Ricardo B
                      Quartz X1000David Hess
                        Quartz X1000Ricardo B
                          Quartz X1000David Hess
                            TTH? What it is? (NT)Michael S
                              TTH? What it is?David Hess
                                TTHMichael S
                                  TTHDavid Hess
            Quartz X1000Ronald Maas
      Quartz X1000Ronald Maas
      Quartz X1000Dan Fay
      Quartz X1000Aaron
        Quartz X1000Exophase
          Quartz X1000David Hess
    Quartz X1000TREZA
      Quartz X1000anon
        Quartz X1000TREZA
          Quartz X1000anon
            Quartz X1000David Hess
              Quartz X1000TREZA
                Quartz X1000Michael S