By: IntelUser2000 (Intel_user2000.delete@this.yahoo.ca),
Room: Moderated Discussions
Peter Gerassimoff (PGERASSIMOFF@wi.rr.com) on 9/25/04 wrote:
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>Paul DeMone (pdemone@igs.net) on 9/24/04 wrote:
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>>Groo (charlie@theinquirer.net) on 9/24/04 wrote:
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>>>How about Dothan ramping?
>>
>>How about it?
>>
>>Banias has a 25 W TDP at top speed of 1.7 GHz
>>Dothan was intro'd with a 21 W TDP at 2.0 GHz
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>>Athlon 64 has a 89 W TDP at top speed of 2.4 GHz
>>in 130 nm.
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>>Unless AMD intro's 90 nm A64 with 2MB L2 at under
>>200 mm2 that runs 75 W TDP at 2.8 GHz then one
>>has grounds to say that relative to Intel's 90 nm,
>>AMD's 90 nm process is a disappointment. The
>>unkind might even say "broken". ;-)
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>Broken, HA! 90nm A64 3000+ 939 1.8GHz at 1.2V uses 16-20W, less than Dothan's
>21.5W TDPtyp. 90nm A64 3500+ 939 2.2GHz at 1.4V uses 25-32W. Dothan left well behind in performance.
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>See "Some 90nm A64 Power Data".
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>Pete
>
The fact that Dothan runs at 1.7Ghz with no fan indicates that Dothan runs with much less TDP than 90nm A64 since even with only 87mm2 die, it runs cooler than A64 with over 100mm2 die.
Link: http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/cm/g5m100-n/itxpm-9.htm
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>Paul DeMone (pdemone@igs.net) on 9/24/04 wrote:
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>>Groo (charlie@theinquirer.net) on 9/24/04 wrote:
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>>>How about Dothan ramping?
>>
>>How about it?
>>
>>Banias has a 25 W TDP at top speed of 1.7 GHz
>>Dothan was intro'd with a 21 W TDP at 2.0 GHz
>>
>>Athlon 64 has a 89 W TDP at top speed of 2.4 GHz
>>in 130 nm.
>>
>>Unless AMD intro's 90 nm A64 with 2MB L2 at under
>>200 mm2 that runs 75 W TDP at 2.8 GHz then one
>>has grounds to say that relative to Intel's 90 nm,
>>AMD's 90 nm process is a disappointment. The
>>unkind might even say "broken". ;-)
>
>Broken, HA! 90nm A64 3000+ 939 1.8GHz at 1.2V uses 16-20W, less than Dothan's
>21.5W TDPtyp. 90nm A64 3500+ 939 2.2GHz at 1.4V uses 25-32W. Dothan left well behind in performance.
>
>See "Some 90nm A64 Power Data".
>
>Pete
>
The fact that Dothan runs at 1.7Ghz with no fan indicates that Dothan runs with much less TDP than 90nm A64 since even with only 87mm2 die, it runs cooler than A64 with over 100mm2 die.
Link: http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/cm/g5m100-n/itxpm-9.htm


